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Old 11-11-2018, 03:13 PM   #1
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Opinions on this Bus?

Okay,

Itís a 2003 International 72cap Diesel Bus with a DT466 engine and hydraulic brakes.

The asking price is set at $4,000, but Iíd try to get it for $3200-$3600.

Iím told thereís not much rust and that itís overall condition is good. It runs but the owner isnít sure what it would need for a safety (if it needs anything).

Itís got 295km on it. (183k miles).

Iím not too thrilled about the hydraulic brakes but itís almost worth giving up for the DT466.

Iím currently trying to get more pictures, of the inside, rear, under the bus and hood, but what are your first impressions?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 11-11-2018, 05:08 PM   #2
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My short bus has hydraulic brakes and they're just peachy. I wouldn't want them on a bigger bus. but then, I travel quite a bit and have gone up and down mountains more than a few times. it's odd that this bus would have hydraulic brakes as the whack-lever on the front bumper tends to be an air powered device. Possibly still has a compressor.

At least one member here will tell you to avoid the DT466 after 1999 or so.
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Old 11-11-2018, 09:33 PM   #3
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OP how tall are you?
If you're under 6 feet tall it looks like a decent bus.
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Old 11-11-2018, 10:19 PM   #4
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OP how tall are you?
If you're under 6 feet tall it looks like a decent bus.
Iím just shy of 5í5Ē, so Iíll have plenty of headspace even after building up the subfloor.

Iím getting more pictures of the bus tomorrow but Iíve beeb warned against hydraulic brakes in a full-sized Bus... at this point Iím on the fence about it.
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Old 11-11-2018, 10:24 PM   #5
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My short bus has hydraulic brakes and they're just peachy. I wouldn't want them on a bigger bus. but then, I travel quite a bit and have gone up and down mountains more than a few times. it's odd that this bus would have hydraulic brakes as the whack-lever on the front bumper tends to be an air powered device. Possibly still has a compressor.

At least one member here will tell you to avoid the DT466 after 1999 or so.
I asked about the brakes and they just said that they were ďstandard brakesĒ, so you could be right there. Iíll ask for further clarification.

If it turns out they are air brakes, Ií m thinking this bus might be a decent deal.

I donít know the specific transmission on it though, and Iím hoping itís not an Allison 545. I havenít heard anything good about that transmission.

Is it worth it if it has a 545?
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Old 11-12-2018, 07:55 AM   #6
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The only way it has a 545 is if it has the lowest tune spec of the dt466.. Which is possible, but less likely.
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Old 11-12-2018, 08:15 AM   #7
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The only way it has a 545 is if it has the lowest tune spec of the dt466.. Which is possible, but less likely.
I've seen plenty of low spec DT's with 545's in buses.
I'd wager that while the 545 was available in buses it was probably put into at least 90% of them.
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Old 11-17-2018, 04:20 PM   #8
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Well, the bus was a bust.

The left side had a large section of the body patched, the rear end had two rusted holes straight through to the insulation.

The engine looked clean and the exhaust was done, but there was some clear repairs underneath and it seemed extremely corroded.

Even the school bus seats themselves had rust halfway up the seats and the floor around where the seats were bolted were all orange and rust stained.

On top of that, the bus didnít start! He said it was because the batteries needed to be replaced and he couldnít have it done until Monday, but never even thought to mention it when we were talking before!

The search is starting to feel hopeless.. there are very little busses for sale in Canada and I canít buy one from the states as the currency conversion does not work in my favour, and the taxes Iíd have to pay to bring it over from the US puts a U.S. bus way out of my budget ):
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Old 11-17-2018, 05:50 PM   #9
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My short bus has hydraulic brakes and they're just peachy. I wouldn't want them on a bigger bus. but then, I travel quite a bit and have gone up and down mountains more than a few times. it's odd that this bus would have hydraulic brakes as the whack-lever on the front bumper tends to be an air powered device. Possibly still has a compressor.

At least one member here will tell you to avoid the DT466 after 1999 or so.

I'm not aware of any DT466 issues after 1999 - until '05 when it became the MaxxForce engine. The emissions hardware on these MaxxForce engines is a nightmare.
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Old 11-17-2018, 11:07 PM   #10
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For future reference
Count me as a vote for "NO hyd brakes"

and some call them Juice brakes just so you know.

And While I love my Ford's and Ford chassis vehicles

Especially don't buy a big Ford chassis Bus with hyd brakes
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