Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 09-16-2016, 05:44 PM   #1
Bus Nut
 
warewolff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: NY
Posts: 465
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: T444E
Spicer 5 speed transmission

Anyone have any experience with these? Thoughts? Is this a better alternative in terms of longetivity to say, an Allison auto? What should I expect?

Thanks
warewolff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2016, 06:06 PM   #2
Bus Nut
 
Carytowncat's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Richmond Virginia
Posts: 932
Year: 1984
Engine: 366 Big block Chevy! :) w/ Stick shift
Welcome wolf. My first bus had a spicer, but i know nothing about em.

Is there a bus you want that has one?
Carytowncat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2016, 06:29 PM   #3
Bus Nut
 
warewolff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: NY
Posts: 465
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: T444E
Yes. Considering a 99 DT466E with under 120k miles and approximately 6800 hours. What are your thoughts on it?
warewolff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2016, 08:15 PM   #4
Bus Nut
 
Carytowncat's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Richmond Virginia
Posts: 932
Year: 1984
Engine: 366 Big block Chevy! :) w/ Stick shift
Runs well? Price?
Do you get warm fuzzy feeling thinking about it?
That's always a good sign for me.
Carytowncat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2016, 11:57 PM   #5
Bus Nut
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Port angeles, Wa
Posts: 289
Year: 90
Coachwork: bluebird conventional
Chassis: international
Engine: dt466
Rated Cap: 72
Spicer

My bus has a spicer 5 speed, Several of our tow trucks have spicers. They are good transmissions. The clutch is a single plate ceramic disc, I plan to go to a twin disc organic easy pedal clutch or an allison mt643. If you like driving a standard trans , this is the way to go.
bluebird90 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2016, 12:46 AM   #6
Skoolie
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Oregon
Posts: 157
Year: 1984
Coachwork: International Harvester
Chassis: S1700
Engine: 6.9l IDI
Rated Cap: 27 (adults)
I swapped a spicer from. A 72 dump truck into my bus, you gotta bump second to get the synchros going to get 1st from a stop. But I'm sure modern spiders have 1st and reverse synchronized. Spicers are beefy. Some people say they don't shift as smooth as an eaton m. I don't know I never drove one. Bottom line, in a rv application, your unlikely to
Ever break a spicer 5speed as long as you keep the fluid full.
Famousinternetjesus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2018, 09:04 PM   #7
Bus Nut
 
warewolff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: NY
Posts: 465
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: T444E
Quote:
Originally Posted by Famousinternetjesus View Post
I swapped a spicer from. A 72 dump truck into my bus, you gotta bump second to get the synchros going to get 1st from a stop. But I'm sure modern spiders have 1st and reverse synchronized. Spicers are beefy. Some people say they don't shift as smooth as an eaton m. I don't know I never drove one. Bottom line, in a rv application, your unlikely to
Ever break a spicer 5speed as long as you keep the fluid full.
So I'm rereading all of my old posts and such trying to figure out what to do next mechanically. I have never, not once, changed my transmission fluid on my 5 speed Spicer. I'm embarrassed to say I didn't know I had to. I know that when I drove it home for the first time from Maryland, there was a nasty electrical-like burning smell. I figured it was the transmission as the bus had sat for like 2 years before I bought it. If I remember correctly, the smell went away and the rest of the ride was cake. Can anyone point me in the right direction as to how I should be servicing my transmission?
__________________
Roads? Where we're going, we don't need ... roads.
warewolff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2018, 09:19 PM   #8
Bus Nut
 
Alan N's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Gonvick MN
Posts: 329
Year: 1975
Chassis: Gillig
Engine: Cat 3208t/10 speed transmission
Drop the oil and see what it looks like. If it looks like oil (not silver or grey and full of stuff) fill it up with synthetic 50wt transmission oil and move on.
__________________
Remove hence to yonder place....
Alan N is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2018, 04:43 PM   #9
New Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: VA at Moment
Posts: 3
Year: 1987
Chassis: International
Engine: 7.3l Diesel
hi there,
sombody know the axle ratio from a international shorty, 5 speed spicer with 7,3l ?
found a plate on rear-axle (not in good condition) with a number 6.5....but think it`s very short. any idea to get a little longer rear axle ratio. idea what rear axle will fit , best way plug`n play?
btw....last week , brother in law change the oil in the gearbox, and he said, it was worth the work and money....
greets from germany, pigu
Pigu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2018, 09:28 AM   #10
Bus Nut
 
warewolff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: NY
Posts: 465
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: T444E
Pig, mine is 4.44 and is a decent gear ratio.

So I bought two gallons of "Lucas Oil 10146 Synthetic 50WT Transmission Lubricant" and a hand pump. .. I found the fill and drain holes for the transmission but I don't have any level ground near me... has anyone swapped their manual transmission fluid? How long will this job realistically take? Could I just stop at a Wal-Mart for 20 minutes, place an oil pan underneath the gearbox, open it up, close, fill, and drive away? Is there any procedure to run through after filling? Should I mock run through all the gears before I take off? The bus has been sitting for quite awhile now and I'm getting a burning smell from the clutch ... hoping it just sat too long and isn't burned out already. No slipping yet. Any input appreciated.
warewolff is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:48 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.