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03-19-2016, 02:45 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Henley-on-Thames, United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Posts: 121
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466e
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Transmission Fluid for DT466E?
I am replacing an Allison Transmission Filter P/N 29539579 and will need to top up the new filter with fluid - the question is - what sort of fluid (brand/name?) would I need to put into it? Will any "Automatic Transmission Fluid" work or does it have to be something specific? The International Engine Operation manual talks about Fuel, Oil and Coolant, but says nothing about Transmission Fluid!
Thanks!
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03-19-2016, 03:12 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Houston, Tx.
Posts: 403
Year: 1999
Coachwork: AmTran
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466E
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Hi Tim,
I believe the International Engine Operation manual doesn't mention the transmission because it's totally separate from the engine. I have a DT466E engine as well but that has nothing to do with the transmissions that is installed in my bus. In my bus I have an Allison MD3060 automatic transmission. But there is also MT545, MT645, and various other transmissions that are put into buses regardless of the engine type.
I know this does not answer your question about what type of transmission fluid you need and for that I'm sorry but I just wanted to point out that engines and their transmissions in buses vary widely.
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03-19-2016, 04:09 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: EHT New Jersey
Posts: 1,134
Year: 2003
Coachwork: AmTran
Chassis: International 3000RE
Engine: T444E/AT545
Rated Cap: 75
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Google-fu leads me here, Allison's approved ATF fluid page (for on highway applications). BP, BASF, and Shell fluids are listed.
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03-19-2016, 06:25 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Winlcok, WA
Posts: 2,233
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For the older Allison AT/MT/HT transmissions Dexron II/III/IV will work just fine.
For the newer electronically controlled 1000/2000/3000 transmissions you will need a synthetic that meets Allison's Transynd fluid spe'c.
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03-20-2016, 03:50 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Henley-on-Thames, United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Posts: 121
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyboyHPD
Hi Tim,
I believe the International Engine Operation manual doesn't mention the transmission because it's totally separate from the engine. I have a DT466E engine as well but that has nothing to do with the transmissions that is installed in my bus. In my bus I have an Allison MD3060 automatic transmission. But there is also MT545, MT645, and various other transmissions that are put into buses regardless of the engine type.
I know this does not answer your question about what type of transmission fluid you need and for that I'm sorry but I just wanted to point out that engines and their transmissions in buses vary widely.
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Thanks for this! I'm guessing the Transmission Fluid is going to be the same regardless of the model but I suppose the next question is how do I work out which Transmission I have! Is there any way to look it up from the VIN?
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03-20-2016, 07:58 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Winlcok, WA
Posts: 2,233
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With the VIN you can get a Line Setting Ticket from either an IC bus dealer or any IHC Truck dealer. The LST is the birth record of your bus and it will spell out everything that was used to build your bus.
Or you can slide under the bus and check on the driver's side of the transmission for the builder's tag. It should have the model and serial number for the transmission.
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03-20-2016, 12:23 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Ft. Smith Arkansas
Posts: 141
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cowlitzcoach
With the VIN you can get a Line Setting Ticket from either an IC bus dealer or any IHC Truck dealer. The LST is the birth record of your bus and it will spell out everything that was used to build your bus.
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So is this for any IHC cause mind is a 95
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03-24-2016, 09:14 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Henley-on-Thames, United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Posts: 121
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466e
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Looks like I have an Allison 2000 Transmission so need a TES-295 standard fluid. You can only buy Castrol Transynd in 20 litre containers, but Repsol sell 1litre TES-295 Automatic Transmission Fluid so I've gone with that.
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09-28-2021, 05:53 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Travel
Posts: 210
Year: 2007
Coachwork: Ic ce Navistar international
Chassis: Ce 300 school bus
Engine: 7.6L international ic ce 300 school bus
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It's this tes 295 a synthetic fluid ???
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