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Old 03-29-2016, 04:21 PM   #1
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VT-365 / IC-bus

I ran across what seems like a really nice IC BE(short bus) series (2008?) that has a VT-365 in it..

I dont see that engine brought up here in the forums very much...

is it any good?

in general are IC-BUS good?

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Old 03-29-2016, 05:29 PM   #2
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Its the 6.0

They've been nothing but problems.
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Old 03-29-2016, 05:35 PM   #3
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was its predecessor the T444E any better?
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Old 03-29-2016, 07:10 PM   #4
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Yes, it was. Different injectors and a different pump. Not dead reliable but way better then what the 6.0 and 6.4 uses. I've read that the vt365 didn't have the problems the powerstroke did, and I've read the reasons that others have surmised as to why. But I haven't worked on many so I have no experience to comment with.
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Old 06-28-2017, 08:40 AM   #5
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The VT365 aren't as problematic as the 6.0 Powerstroke because much of the Powerstroke's problems came from the emissions equipment - the egr cooler - that would often fail and then lead to other major problems like head gasket failure. I don't believe those egr coolers are in a bus.

I have a Ford Excursion with the 6.0 Powerstroke and have done extensive work on it. I think they're pretty good engines when the weak points have been taken care of but I wish there was more on here about the VT365 as I'm considering a bus with one right now. Would like to know from other's experience with them, do they still have head gasket issues etc...
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I go back and forth on the VT-365. the VT vs the PS also is that the HP / TQ ratings of the VT are much conservative compared to that of the PS 6.0, there was a forum member last year though that got a VT hot ONCE and done.. they still have the Plastic oil filter standpipe which melts at an oil temp of 260.. the VT still suffers the same crappy oil cooler fate of the 6.0, then there are lots of aftermarket solutions like you have done for your 6.0 excursion.

the shop that painted my bus also works on trucks as well.. it just so happened while I was there for some touch up work that a VT-365 in a 4700 box truck. came in NUKED.. catastrophic mechanical.. the front of the block was broken.. he said that was the second he had done this year on similar trucks. .. of course i have no idea of the miles / hours / etc on those trucks..

i think for someone like you who has the knowledge and experience of the 6.0 that a VT-365 might be just fine.. although you'll likely find it under-powered compared to the 6.0 in your ford.. and upgrading the soecs on a navistar engine isnt as easy as a ford.. they use J1708 / J1939 computers so no cool programmers will work on them.
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I have a fleet of 300 vt365 buses which is the same as a 6.0 all international parts never had head problems like ford there really not bad once updates are done I am building a06 re with a vt365 and it moves fine
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I have a fleet of 300 vt365 buses which is the same as a 6.0 all international parts never had head problems like ford there really not bad once updates are done I am building a06 re with a vt365 and it moves fine
Can anyone detail what updates are recomended to better the vt365? There sure are a lot of buses with those engines out there for sale.
Does anyones negative opinions change at all in the case of a vt365 on a short 6 window body bus?
I am considering a low milage (106k miles with 6,300 hours) 6 window bus right now... Opinions?
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absolutely positively never get a VT-365 hot. one of the biggest issues is the oil cooler and egr cooler.. if the oil cooler clogs due to poor coolant maintenance, you can run your oil tempoeratures up esp if you are running the bus on the highway or have it loaded heavy.. overheated oil can and will melt plastic parts in the engine and destroy it.

if I were buying one those are the 2 things id likely upgrade right off the bat.

BulletProof EGR Cooler, Square, Ford 6.0L, Lifetime Warranty

this is a nice upgrade kit for an external cooler / filter for the oil..

https://www.iprresearch.com/IPR-Exte...werstroke.html

-Christopher

P.S. the references to ford powerstroke 6.0 - International made the Diesel engines for ford for those.. in the international trucks / busses they are referred to as VT-365, in the fords the yare referred to as powerstroke 6.0..

some differences exist. but many core parts are shared between the 2.
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I wouldn't go bullet proof we were using them and had problems with them leaking at the welds and they use international oil coolers
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