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Old 03-31-2019, 11:13 AM   #1
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Warn Engine Light

I have a 2005 FE300 with a DT 466. I am getting an intermittent Warn Engine light but am unable to diagnose it. My bus does not appear to have an engine diagnostics button but does have a J1708/J1587 type diagnostics port.



Does anyone know how I would be able to get the codes?


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Old 03-31-2019, 12:37 PM   #2
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This device will read codes: https://www.scangauge.com/products/scangauge-d/
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Old 03-31-2019, 01:08 PM   #3
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Not only does it read codes, it also works as 4 digital gauges when you're driving.

But yeah, handy little code reader.
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Old 03-31-2019, 01:09 PM   #4
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Thank you, that looks like it would work. I will purchase one of these and go from there.


When I do get the code(s) how do I translate them?
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Old 03-31-2019, 01:16 PM   #5
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The codes will be displayed by their numerical identifiers in the "Code" section of the scangauge menu.

Below is IIRC the codes for the dt466. I've got scans of an actual book that I'm 100% sure, but these files seem to be lost in the oblivion that is around 5tb of backups. I'll post these or PM you if you want when I find them.



DTC Codes


DTC Circuit Condition Description
111 ECM No errors detected - flash code only
112 ECM PWR Electrical system voltage B+ out-of-range high
113 ECM PWR Electrical system voltage B+ out-of-range low
114 ECT Engine Coolant Temperature signal out-of-range low
115 ECT Engine Coolant Temperature signal out-of-range high
121 MAP Intake Manifold Absolute Pressure signal out-of-range high
122 MAP Intake Manifold Absolute Pressure signal out-of-range low
123 MAP Intake Manifold Absolute Pressure signal in-range fault
124 ICP Injection Control Pressure signal out-of-range low
125 ICP Injection Control Pressure signal out-of-range high
126 BCP Engine Brake Control Pressure signal out-of-range low
127 BCP Engine Brake Control Pressure signal out-of-range high
131 APS/IVS APS signal out-of-range low
132 APS/IVS APS signal out-of-range high
133 APS/IVS APS signal in-range DTC
134 APS/IVS APS signal and IVS disagree
135 APS/IVS Idle Validation Switch circuit fault
136 EFP Engine Fuel Pressure signal out-of-range low
137 EFP Engine Fuel Pressure signal out-of-range high
141 VVS Vehicle Speed Sensor signal out-of-range low
142 VVS Vehicle Speed Sensor signal out-of-range high
143 CMP Incorrect CMP signal signature
145 CMP CMP signal inactive
146 CKP CKP signal inactive
147 CKP Incorrect CKP signal signature
151 BAP Barometric Absolute Pressure signal out-of-range high
152 BAP Barometric Absolute Pressure signal out-of-range low
153 WIF Barometric Absolute Pressure signal out-of-range low
154 IAT Inlet Air temperature signal out-of-range low
155 IAT Inlet Air temperature signal out-of-range high
161 MAT Manifold Air Temperature Signal out-of-range low
162 MAT Manifold Air Temperature Signal out-of-range high
163 EGR Exhaust Gas Recirculation Valve Position Signal out-of-range low
211 EOP Engine Oil Pressure signal out-of-range low
212 EOP Engine Oil Pressure signal out-of-range high
215 VSS Vehicle Speed Sensor signal frequency out-of-range high
225 EOP EOP sensor signal in-range fault
231 ATA ATA data communication link error
236 ELC ECL switch circuit fault
241 IPR Injection Control Pressure regulator OCC self test failed
246 EFAN Engine Fan - OCC self test fault
247 BSV Engine Brake enable OCC self test failed
251 IAH Inlet Air Heater OCC self test failed
256 RSE Variable Geometry Turbo control OCC self test failed
267 ECI Engine Crank Inhibit OCC self test failed
311 EOT Engine Oil Temperature signal out-of-range low
312 EOT Engine Oil Temperature signal out-of-range high
313 EWPS Engine Oil Pressure below warning level
314 EWPS Engine Oil Pressure below critical level
315 EWPS Engine speed above warning level
316 EWPS Engine Coolant Temperature unable to reach commanded set point
321 EWPS Engine Coolant Temperature above warning level
322 EWPS Engine Coolant Temperature above critical level
323 EWPS Engine Coolant Level below warning/critical level
324 IST Idle Shutdown Timer enabled engine shutdown
325 EWPS Power reduced, matched to cooling system performance
331 ICP SYS Injection Control Pressure above system working range
332 ICP Injection Control Pressure above spec. with engine not running
333 ICP SYS Injection Control Pressure above/below desired level
334 ICP SYS ICP unable to achieve setpoint in time (poor performance)
335 ICP SYS ICP unable to build pressure during cranking
341 EBP Exhaust Back Pressure signal out-of-range low
342 EBP Exhaust Back Pressure signal out-of-range high
343 AMS Excessive exhaust back pressure (gauge)
344 EBP Exhaust back pressure above spec. when engine off
345 AMS Faults detected during VGT portion of the AMS Test
346 AMS Faults detected during EGR portion of the AMS Test
351 AMS Change in exhaust back pressure did not occur when expected
353 AMS Variable Geometry Turbo control over duty cycle
354 AMS Variable Geometry Turbo control under duty cycle
355 AMS Variable Geometry Turbo overspeed
361 AMS VGT control input (MAP/EBP) above/below desired level
365 AMS EGR Valve Position above/below desired level
368 AMS EGR driver module/ECM2 communication fault
371 EFP Engine Fuel Pressure is above normal operating range
372 EFP Engine Fuel Pressure is below normal operating range
421 - 426 INJ High side to low side open (cylinder number indicated)
431 - 436 INJ High side shorted to low side (cylinder number indicated)
451 - 456 INJ High side short to ground or V BAT (cylinder number indicated)
523 IDM IDM V IGN voltage low
525 IDM IDM fault
533 IDM IDM relay voltage high
534 IDM IDM relay voltage low
543 ECM/IDM ECM/IDM communications fault
546 ECM/IDM Engine Brake Control Pressure is below expected range
547 ECM/IDM Engine Brake Control Pressure is above expected range
551 ECM/IDM IDM/CMPO signal inactive
552 ECM/IDM IDM incorrect CMPO signal signature
553 ECM/IDM IDM CKPO signal inactive
554 ECM/IDM IDM incorrect CKPO signal signature
613 ECM ECM/IDM software not compatible
614 ECM EFRC/ECM configuration mismatch
621 ECM Engine using mfg. default rating
622 ECM Engine using field default rating
623 ECM Invalid Engine Family Rating Code (EFRC)
624 ECM Field default active
626 ECM/PWR Unexpected reset fault
631 ECM Read Only Memory (ROM) self test fault
632 ECM Random Access Memory (RAM) - CPU self test fault
655 ECM Programmable parameter list level incompatible
661 ECM RAM programmable parameter list corrupt
664 ECM Calibration level incompatible
665 ECM Programmable parameter memory content corrupt
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Old 03-31-2019, 01:29 PM   #6
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if you are anywhere near central ohio i can pull the codes for you
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Old 03-31-2019, 01:33 PM   #7
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if you are anywhere near central ohio i can pull the codes for you

I am in Washington State but I appreciate the offer!



I went ahead and purchased the ScanGuage from Advance Auto Parts delivered for $130. Couldn't pass it up to have an on-board diagnostic tool at my disposal.


I appreciate this community! Thank you to all!
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Old 03-31-2019, 01:42 PM   #8
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make sure you ordered the scangauge D and not the Scangauge II. the scangauge D is the one with the round deutsch connectors you need for your bus diagnostics... the scangauge II is the one for OBD-II for consumer cars..
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Old 03-31-2019, 02:43 PM   #9
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In our IH3800 w/ DT466E I would get an intermittent engine warning lamp sometimes accompanied by the shrill beeping of a warning. Sometimes no light at all but just beeping. I ended up pulling the gauge cluster and resoldering the gauge contacts for good measure. Stopped the issue. I used to be concerned by the ever impending possibility of cylinder liner o-ring failure and coolant in the oil. So far so good though!
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Old 03-31-2019, 02:58 PM   #10
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These gauge clusters are def flaky. I’ve had to repair both mine.. and now the one in red bus is.dying again 2 years later..
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Old 04-05-2019, 11:37 PM   #11
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Update.


I installed my Scangauge and it first asked me which bus? J1709 or J1939. I assumed J1939 and it gave me a fault code of 623_04_127. As I was toggling through the menu when I went back to the codes it read 2 faults,
#1, 796_5_1
#2, 795_5_1


Any input on what this could mean would be appreciated!


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Old 04-06-2019, 04:03 AM   #12
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If your engine is pre 2008 use j1708. The j1939 on these is for the transmission.
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Old 04-06-2019, 07:39 AM   #13
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If your engine is pre 2008 use j1708. The j1939 on these is for the transmission.
Cadillackid, thank you for the clarification.

The engine is 2004 so the j1708 codes;
#1, 8_5_1
#2, 7_5_1

The transmission j1939 codes;
#1, 796_5_1
#2, 795_5_1

Does anyone know what these are pertaining to?
Thank you.
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Old 04-06-2019, 09:20 AM   #14
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wierd codes... im assuming the way you are posting them it is PID_FMI_CNT


the codes are 3 digits on navistar.



if you clear the codes, then restart the engine does the WARN light come on and save new codes?
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Old 04-09-2019, 03:48 PM   #15
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wierd codes... im assuming the way you are posting them it is PID_FMI_CNT


the codes are 3 digits on navistar.



if you clear the codes, then restart the engine does the WARN light come on and save new codes?

Cadillackid, yes the codes are posted as PID_FMI_CNT.


I cleared the codes and restarted and they reappeared right away. Keep in mind the warn engine light is not on to show these codes. I then drove the bus long enough to get the light to come on which took 30+ miles and a third code appeared.



J1708

#1, 8_5_1
#2, 7_5_1
#3, 102_2_0


Any ideas?


Thank you again.


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Old 04-09-2019, 05:07 PM   #16
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code 7 and code 102 reference that your turbo boost sensor is erratic.. at this point you may want to try and display PID 102 as an X-gauge and see what it does as you drive down the road..



if those J1939s are SPN's they are ABS controller codes... no idea how real that is?
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code 7 and code 102 reference that your turbo boost sensor is erratic.. at this point you may want to try and display PID 102 as an X-gauge and see what it does as you drive down the road..



if those J1939s are SPN's they are ABS controller codes... no idea how real that is?

Will do. Thank you.
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Thanks for the tip on the gauge. Mine came in yesterday and it's very helpful.
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