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01-16-2018, 09:53 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Frisco, Texas
Posts: 829
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: Dt466e
Rated Cap: 71
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which t444e is it
so if i understand right, im reading that there are different HP varients of the t444e. is there a way to tell which one a bus has? i have the vin, no pictures available yet, i have sent requests but bus may not be available yet
vin 1HVBBABN21H407087
one sit says this is engine 7.3L V8 OHV 16V DIESEL/CNG if that helps
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01-16-2018, 10:10 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Owasso, OK
Posts: 2,627
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
Engine: Cummins 6CTA8.3 Mechanical MD3060
Rated Cap: 46 Coach Seats, 40 foot
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jjhwick119
so if i understand right, im reading that there are different HP varients of the t444e. is there a way to tell which one a bus has? i have the vin, no pictures available yet, i have sent requests but bus may not be available yet
vin 1HVBBABN21H407087
one sit says this is engine 7.3L V8 OHV 16V DIESEL/CNG if that helps
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You'll have to contact an International dealer with the VIN# to get more info.
The Gates VIN Decoder doesn't mention CNG.
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01-16-2018, 11:02 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 1,363
Year: 1990
Coachwork: Crown, integral. (With 2kW of tiltable solar)
Chassis: Crown Supercoach II (rear engine)
Engine: Detroit 6V92TAC, DDEC 2, Jake brake, Allison HT740
Rated Cap: 37,400 lbs GVWR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jjhwick119
so if i understand right, im reading that there are different HP varients of the t444e. is there a way to tell which one a bus has? i have the vin, no pictures available yet, i have sent requests but bus may not be available yet
vin 1HVBBABN21H407087
one sit says this is engine 7.3L V8 OHV 16V DIESEL/CNG if that helps
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Are you sure you want CNG? It's either diesel or CNG, not both.
John
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01-17-2018, 06:08 AM
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#4
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Auction listings very OFTEN say Diesel/CNG.
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01-17-2018, 06:25 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Frisco, Texas
Posts: 829
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: Dt466e
Rated Cap: 71
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The ad and 2 websites I used for vin didn't say cng, one vin decoder did. I'm not sure what it is honestly
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01-17-2018, 06:34 AM
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#6
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jjhwick119
The ad and 2 websites I used for vin didn't say cng, one vin decoder did. I'm not sure what it is honestly
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On online auctions, they're often listed as diesel/cng as they were available that way. Something to do with folks not knowing much about buses. They're secretaries tasked with describing mechanical things in a listing.
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01-17-2018, 06:44 AM
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#7
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee, FL
Posts: 3,056
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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THere is a tag on the passenger side valve cover that will clearly show which tune it has... But good luck getting an auction seller to look at it!
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01-17-2018, 06:47 AM
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#8
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Frisco, Texas
Posts: 829
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: Dt466e
Rated Cap: 71
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Dealer not auction, so I'm hoping for some luck with more info. Bus showing not available for a month though so we shall see if they even have the info
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01-17-2018, 06:50 AM
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#9
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jjhwick119
Dealer not auction, so I'm hoping for some luck with more info. Bus showing not available for a month though so we shall see if they even have the info
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Googling the VIN, I found a listing for it saying its a diesel.
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01-17-2018, 07:12 AM
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#10
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Frisco, Texas
Posts: 829
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: Dt466e
Rated Cap: 71
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
Googling the VIN, I found a listing for it saying its a diesel.
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Lol. No way to keep postings from people. So I guess cng is a different fuel type? Still learning
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01-17-2018, 07:13 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jjhwick119
Lol. No way to keep postings from people. So I guess cng is a different fuel type? Still learning
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Compressed Natural Gas.
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01-17-2018, 07:23 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Frisco, Texas
Posts: 829
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: Dt466e
Rated Cap: 71
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Gotcha, yeah don't want that. I'll stick with diesel...hopefully they have more info on tune/trans/vehicle condition and I can get some pictures.
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01-17-2018, 07:24 AM
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#13
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jjhwick119
Gotcha, yeah don't want that. I'll stick with diesel...hopefully they have more info on tune/trans/vehicle condition and I can get some pictures.
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Best of luck man.
A 444e isn't my first or even second choice for an engine in a full size bus. But if its a 230hp version with a better transmission than the 545, it would be alright.
If you're not planing tons of miles or mountain driving the 545 is *adequate*.
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01-17-2018, 07:32 AM
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#14
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Frisco, Texas
Posts: 829
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: Dt466e
Rated Cap: 71
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I was hoping for higher hp tune with good tranny, otherwise the main bus ive been searching for is a shorter tc2000 (10 window)
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01-20-2018, 07:58 AM
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#15
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 973
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jjhwick119
Lol. No way to keep postings from people. So I guess cng is a different fuel type? Still learning
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Yep and very few stations
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