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Old 08-12-2017, 03:20 AM   #1
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Winter oil suggestions for T444E

What engine oil should be run for the winter months in the T444E? I expect normal temp ranges 60's to 30's with no temps below 15.
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Old 08-12-2017, 05:39 AM   #2
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15w40

Your winters sound about like ours.
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Old 08-12-2017, 10:38 AM   #3
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Even up north you'll want to stick with 15w40. Being a multi-grade oil it will be 15 weight when cold (the 'w' indicates winter weight) and 40 weight when at operating temperature.
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Old 08-12-2017, 03:46 PM   #4
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when it was zero outside the night before (and only 3) in this video.. this is how my bus 444E started up,, (withoiut being plugged in..)

I have rotella T T4 15W40 in it..



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Old 08-12-2017, 06:49 PM   #5
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that is not really cold, so the aformentioned weight is ok. However, I plug my bus in a few hrs before i go anywhere n the winter. warm is easier on everything
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Old 08-12-2017, 07:28 PM   #6
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when it was zero outside the night before (and only 3) in this video.. this is how my bus 444E started up,, (withoiut being plugged in..)

I have rotella T T4 15W40 in it..



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I saw some powerstroke ford guys blogging about using 5w40 and even 0w40 in like Minnesota and Canada etc. I have always run lightweight winter oils and heavy summer oils (usually Mobil 1 full synthetics) in my cars. Anyone who's tried to pour a quart of 15w40 @ 32 degrees vs one @ 80 degrees can imagine trying to lug that oil up into the cold engine through those tiny oil galleries and bearing races. Just sayin..

Another thing that's been nagging me is the service life of oil changes. I was reading the sample reports of the oil testing service Blackstone labs ... their sample International engine was a DT466 changing the oil on an 18k mile interval. Another was using 350 hours (which by my guess would equate to ~ 17,500 miles @ 50 mph avg speed). International's own recommendation is 10k ... so why am I seeing guys recommending 3k to 6k swaps? Help me understand this.


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I change my filter every 3k and my oil every 6k.. too much?? possibly but ive never heard of anything detrimental happening from over changing the oil..

also i use 15W40, because more than once ive left 0 degree temps in ohio and 24 hours later im in st pete FL where its 84.. with my travels taking me through multiple climates the tires are enough of a PITA to keep the right pressure.. let alone if i had to worry about running too light of oil in FL.. fortunately im not driving from -25 to +85.. if I was i think id have ot run a webasto heater or such to keep my engine warm in the cold climate. it seems most truckers i know of that drive from extreme to extreme have an APU where they never have to start their engine with oil as thick as goo..
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I change my filter every 3k and my oil every 6k.. too much?? possibly but ive never heard of anything detrimental happening from over changing the oil..

also i use 15W40, because more than once ive left 0 degree temps in ohio and 24 hours later im in st pete FL where its 84.. with my travels taking me through multiple climates the tires are enough of a PITA to keep the right pressure.. let alone if i had to worry about running too light of oil in FL.. fortunately im not driving from -25 to +85.. if I was i think id have ot run a webasto heater or such to keep my engine warm in the cold climate. it seems most truckers i know of that drive from extreme to extreme have an APU where they never have to start their engine with oil as thick as goo..
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Have you ever had a bypass filtration system in any of your buses?


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Once an engine is broken in, the oil filter is a lot less crucial. I've had vehicles with incredibly high miles put on them, and I only change oil filters every other oil change.
That's why they usually give capacities for oil changes with or without a filter.
That's the curriculum taught by MMI/UTI. The first few oil changes sure, I'll spring for a new filter. After that its every other oil change. I change my oil pretty regularly since its hot as hell here. I also buy cheap oil at Rural King. It meets the same standards/requirements, but since its just store brand stuff its about $30 for a five gallon bucket. Makes changing oil regularly on a big diesel downright affordable. I've NEVER understood why anyone would pay some of the figures I've seen on here for oil changes. Even if you go name brand and a new filter its still only like $70 to change your own oil.
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