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Old 10-12-2017, 02:54 PM   #1
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Worth looking into? Possible first bus purchase

I saw this bus online. It looks like the body and insides look good, but I am afraid to take the plunge and buy! The pertinent details of the ad are below:
I have for sale a good running 2003 International bus with only 130,000 miles on it. This bus has the very reliable and long lasting 7.3 Powerstroke motor with a automatic Allison trans.
I have read somewhere that the 2003 model International is a good bus, but would like some other opinions.

Based on the info above, would you respond with things to check and ask before I sign on the dotted line? Thanks in advance!
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Old 10-12-2017, 03:02 PM   #2
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Didn't know they offered the 7.3 that late in the lineup.it also would be called the t444e in industrial applications.great engine. I would varify that is the actual engine in the bus and not some other power stroke engine loke the 6.0(crap) millage sounds good though to me.
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Old 10-12-2017, 03:06 PM   #3
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Wikipedia says they used the t444e midway through 2003. So that could be corect
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Old 10-12-2017, 03:10 PM   #4
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I was able to see an image that says T44e Engine Family
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Old 10-12-2017, 03:16 PM   #5
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Is there a such thing as a 12 digit VIN? I thought VINs had to be 17 digits. Curious because I'm in touch with my county to make sure I can even register the thing.
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Old 10-12-2017, 07:15 PM   #6
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the VIN on a 2003 should be 17 digits. you'll see busses up through the model year 2004 containing T-444E (7.3) as oftehn the engine / chassis was retired but the manufcturer used up stock they had on components.. so yes that 03 can easily be a 444E.
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Old 10-12-2017, 07:57 PM   #7
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That's low mileage for a 7.3L diesel. Keep it maintained and you can easily triple those miles without much headache. Vin should be 17 digits as already stated.
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Old 10-13-2017, 08:28 AM   #8
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Thanks for the advice, I think we are going to check it out in person this weekend. Without seeing the bus, how much would you offer for something with these stats? Also I was able to get the full VIN. Is there a "carfax" for buses?
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Old 10-13-2017, 10:07 AM   #9
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Depending on rust and tire condition these can run anywhere from $3000 to $8000
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Old 10-13-2017, 12:21 PM   #10
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Thanks for all the advice.

Is anyone aware of any mechanical quirks that might be associated with this model? Are there any High Dollar expenses I should prepare for off the bat ie: suspension or super expensive batteries etc?
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