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Old 12-03-2017, 08:18 PM   #21
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I'm going to need to go there and get my 8.3.

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Old 12-03-2017, 08:22 PM   #22
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I'm going to need to go there and get my 8.3.
good luck finding 8.3;s in ohio.. this state is as flat as a pancake except for the poor-districts of SE ohio... maybe one of the richer suburb districts might be an 8.3 as an activity bus but generally busses here arent high spec.. handicap busses get air-ride and A/C..
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Old 12-03-2017, 08:35 PM   #23
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That's right, come to think of it. I've seen those full size buses with the 5.9, but I'm guessing those 5.9s are tuned to a higher power than mine.

I feel pretty slow in this medium size bus with the 5.9. Other drivers were more polite when it was still yellow.
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Old 12-04-2017, 09:39 AM   #24
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They well might have a good graveyard. Google Maps overhead photos shows a real buttload of buses parked in a dirt lot around the corner from the address provided, on a road mysteriously named "Dry Hydrant".
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Old 12-04-2017, 08:42 PM   #25
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That's right, come to think of it. I've seen those full size buses with the 5.9, but I'm guessing those 5.9s are tuned to a higher power than mine.

I feel pretty slow in this medium size bus with the 5.9. Other drivers were more polite when it was still yellow.
Hi Robin I think we have close to the same bus is yours the 12v mechanical 5,9 with the intercooler?
Mine is a1991 tc 2000 5.9 rated at 190hp with the intercooler and my plan is replace the P7100 with a built one with a new fuel plate and 3000 rpm springs. Around 240 HP which is barely into the nether with an Allison 545.

Have you considered this route and money invested?
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Hi Robin I think we have close to the same bus is yours the 12v mechanical 5,9 with the intercooler?
Mine is a1991 tc 2000 5.9 rated at 190hp with the intercooler and my plan is replace the P7100 with a built one with a new fuel plate and 3000 rpm springs. Around 240 HP which is barely into the nether with an Allison 545.

Have you considered this route and money invested?
Mine is a '97 mechanical. Sure I've thought of increasing the power . I've read up on it. I think you can get near your hp goals with adjustment of your current pump and a heavily modified fuel plate. I'm reluctant to make those modifications, but they may be in my future at some point. My current use of this bus is usually pretty low speed over rough ground on old logging roads. For freeway travel I would like a bit more power.

Yes, I've looked at the shorter version of the TC2000s. I've admired the short TC2000 since I first saw one. I don't understand why they ran two such similar models. They are quite similar tp the TC1000, but I believe you're on 22.5 tires, while I'm on 19.5s. Your model also should have the midship emergency exit on the driver's side. I think that would be a great bus.
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Old 12-04-2017, 10:23 PM   #27
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" I'm reluctant to make those modifications"

Me to. My plan is to by the rebuilt pump with the 240 hp fuel plate and 3000 rpm governor springs installed and a pre figured lift number to time it what is specified.

How long is your bus? How does it do in the dirt with what kind of tires?

This one is 28 feet
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Old 12-04-2017, 11:09 PM   #28
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" I'm reluctant to make those modifications"

Me to. My plan is to by the rebuilt pump with the 240 hp fuel plate and 3000 rpm governor springs installed and a pre figured lift number to time it what is specified.

How long is your bus? How does it do in the dirt with what kind of tires?

This one is 28 feet
If you're going that route I'd suggest first getting a new fuel plate and putting it into your current fuel pump. You can always get another pump later if things don't work well enough with just the fuel plate, spring and turning up the pump. I figure it would be good to understand the pump well in that process. I've been warned against modifications, which has some wisdom behind it. I don't need to go faster, but I would like to get up to speed easier and possibly pull a hill without being one of those guys everybody has to zoom around while there's a passing lane.

I'm right at 26'. I put six high quality steer tires on this that are all the nice quiet highway tread. I have to be a bit cautious with these tires because these things get stuck easily on wet grass. I want a couple more rims that I'll put some traction tires on because I have seen the light. These things are quite heavy to pull out when they're stuck. Also I do like carrying two spares. To answer your question, I don't get off the rock roads if the ground is wet. If the ground is soft at all these things can sink enough to make you set up camp there. I was lucky because three days later the ground froze solid and I could drive out of the hole. That was just days after I bought this bus, and it was only stuck in my yard.
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Old 12-05-2017, 09:12 PM   #29
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This is what is being considered. Certainly do not want to learn how to break a P7100 that is mine!. Thanks for tire info also have new quality tires 6 steering. Am planning a swing out rear mounted spare two would be nice but that is a lot of rim and tire in 22,5. We'll see .



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Old 12-05-2017, 09:49 PM   #30
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That's a serious core charge. If the core charge is $2k, I'm afraid to ask how much the new pump costs.
I understand the draw of having extra ponies. I could use a little extra power at times, but I almost keep up with traffic. I'm pretty slow on a long steep highway grade, but I put on my old man hat and drive with my left blinker on for miles and miles.

My thoughts are that I'd rather spend a couple hundred improving my current pump and see if that would be enough horse power. Most people think it does the trick. Mine is completely stock and I'm not really having any serious problems entering the freeway almost at speed. There really isn't anyplace to go faster in this state anyway. I already know my bus can climb quite steep hills as long as I have traction. There just isn't that much call for lots more power in these buses unless you're going to race other buses.

I think I've hit 2,600 rpm once on a long downhill, but normally 2,400 is all I get under load. There's a lot of states with higher speed limits than Oregon. At least we went back to 65 on freeways finally. Everybody remembers driving double nickels. I would like to be able to cruse 70 while going through some of these terribly flat states out there. I think I can do that without a pricey new pump. This is a low budget operation I got going here. I can't justify the expense because there's almost no place to use that added power. If I blew my pump up I'd be shopping the junk yards first.

Nearly everyone says OEM equipment lasts longer too.
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That's a serious core charge. If the core charge is $2k, I'm afraid to ask how much the new pump costs.
I understand the draw of having extra ponies. I could use a little extra power at times, but I almost keep up with traffic. I'm pretty slow on a long steep highway grade, but I put on my old man hat and drive with my left blinker on for miles and miles.

My thoughts are that I'd rather spend a couple hundred improving my current pump and see if that would be enough horse power. Most people think it does the trick. Mine is completely stock and I'm not really having any serious problems entering the freeway almost at speed. There really isn't anyplace to go faster in this state anyway. I already know my bus can climb quite steep hills as long as I have traction. There just isn't that much call for lots more power in these buses unless you're going to race other buses.

I think I've hit 2,600 rpm once on a long downhill, but normally 2,400 is all I get under load. There's a lot of states with higher speed limits than Oregon. At least we went back to 65 on freeways finally. Everybody remembers driving double nickels. I would like to be able to cruse 70 while going through some of these terribly flat states out there. I think I can do that without a pricey new pump. This is a low budget operation I got going here. I can't justify the expense because there's almost no place to use that added power. If I blew my pump up I'd be shopping the junk yards first.

Nearly everyone says OEM equipment lasts longer too.
You might want to try and lighten up the load to remember it's the power to weight ratio that determines performance

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