Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 07-20-2015, 09:31 PM   #1
Bus Nut
 
REDD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: ...little north of Toronto Ontario
Posts: 450
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomsass
Chassis: Freightshaker
Engine: 5.9 cummins 5 speed
Rated Cap: 6 passenger 2 ATV's
Fuller fs-5205a tranny

FULLER FS-5205A TRANNY ...5 SPEED

Can anyone give me a yay or nay on this transmission. Pros-cons?
Don't seam to see anything here about this one.

Thanks
REDD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2015, 10:00 PM   #2
Bus Nut
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 539
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: International
Engine: TE 444
Rated Cap: 12
good for 500 ft lbs torque according to fuller site
705 newton meters
1 to 1 fifth gear
Kubla is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2015, 02:19 AM   #3
Site Team
 
crazycal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 4,087
No worth the trouble if you don't get an overdrive.
__________________
I'm hungry!

You Gotta Let Me Fly
crazycal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2015, 09:24 PM   #4
Bus Nut
 
REDD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: ...little north of Toronto Ontario
Posts: 450
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomsass
Chassis: Freightshaker
Engine: 5.9 cummins 5 speed
Rated Cap: 6 passenger 2 ATV's
Quote:
Originally Posted by crazycal View Post
No worth the trouble if you don't get an overdrive.
Sorry Cal, what does that really mean? I'm not a mechanic.

This will be something I head north a few hours for some camping and Riding with friends and or family maybe ten times a year. Some big hills but no mountains.
REDD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2015, 10:01 PM   #5
Site Team
 
crazycal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 4,087
Both autos that are in most buses( AT545 and MT643) have a final gear of 1 to 1. Engine turns 2000 rpms, drive shaft turns 2000(lets leave the non-lockup converter out of this discussion). When you have overdrive like a MD3060, fifth gear is .75 to 1. All things being equal, your engine with turn 25% less to turn the drive shaft the same 2000 rpms. What does this mean in the real world? If you were going 55 at 2000 rpm, in overdrive, you would be turning 1500 rpm. Less fuel, less noise, etc.
__________________
I'm hungry!

You Gotta Let Me Fly
crazycal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2015, 11:00 PM   #6
Bus Nut
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 539
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: International
Engine: TE 444
Rated Cap: 12
that transmission also has a 7.52 ratio first gear, so you could change the rear end ratio to something in the 3.5 area and get low RPM's on the highway
Kubla is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2015, 11:21 PM   #7
Bus Nut
 
Alan N's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Gonvick MN
Posts: 255
Year: 1975
Chassis: Gillig
Engine: Cat 3208t/10 speed transmission
Quote:
Originally Posted by crazycal View Post
No worth the trouble if you don't get an overdrive.
Hey Cal.
Do you know of a 5 speed with over drive that will work with the remote shifter on my rear engine Gillig?
I have 5.29 rears so over drive would be nice. And my throw out bearing needs replacing so now is the time.
Thanks.
__________________
Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.
Alan N is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2015, 02:03 AM   #8
Bus Nut
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Snowflake, Arizona
Posts: 324
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All American Rear Engine
Engine: C-8.3-300 Cummins MD3060
Rated Cap: 40 Prisoners
You could go with the Allison MD3060R which would give you
two overdrive gears .75 and .65 plus a retarder. In sixth gear
you would be turning 1500-1600 RPM at 60 MPH just like some
of the later stick and staples motor homes. Also no worries
about linkage matching. Only requires wiring and mounts with
drive shaft mods.
Dragonpop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2015, 08:27 AM   #9
Site Team
 
crazycal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 4,087
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragonpop View Post
You could go with the Allison MD3060R which would give you
two overdrive gears .75 and .65 plus a retarder. In sixth gear
you would be turning 1500-1600 RPM at 60 MPH just like some
of the later stick and staples motor homes. Also no worries
about linkage matching. Only requires wiring and mounts with
drive shaft mods.


Yes but most school bus applications only come with one overdrive. I guess a couple of members have managed to get their 3060 programed by Allison for 6th gear.
__________________
I'm hungry!

You Gotta Let Me Fly
crazycal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2015, 08:44 AM   #10
Site Team
 
crazycal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 4,087
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan N View Post
Hey Cal.
Do you know of a 5 speed with over drive that will work with the remote shifter on my rear engine Gillig?
I have 5.29 rears so over drive would be nice. And my throw out bearing needs replacing so now is the time.
Thanks.
Sorry, I am not that familiar with manual model numbers. I had picked up one RTO910 and a few RT610 transmissions. They were 10 speeds and had the remote shift set up. The 610s were all purchased and sent to Nicaragua. I still have the RTO910 but it is big and has overdrive. It has a SAE #1 housing. I got them from a school district. They all came from Crowns and Gilligs.

I also have a couple of 5 speeds that are for military 5 ton trucks. They are guberment rebuild in the shipping drums but are not set up for the remote shift. They have a .78 to 1 fifth gear. I was thinking about using one of them for my beautiful Texas bus but bought a MT647 from another member in Las Vegas.

If you talk real nice to me I might be persuaded to sell one of them.
__________________
I'm hungry!

You Gotta Let Me Fly
crazycal is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:56 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.