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03-21-2017, 07:22 PM
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#21
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,208
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: 3800 International
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 72
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scan gauge is another options. I like mine
gbstewart
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03-22-2017, 08:36 AM
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#22
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Ft Loramie, OH
Posts: 52
Year: 1999
Coachwork: BlueBird
Engine: 5.9L Cummins
Rated Cap: 66
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Decided to go this route. Will let you know after I get them installed. Maybe some pictures.
Universal Triple Gauge Console Dash Pod with Dome Lip
MaxTow 1500°F Pyrometer
Black & Green MaxTow 30 PSI Fuel Pressure Gauge
Black & Green MaxTow Transmission Temperature
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03-22-2017, 08:41 AM
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#23
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,835
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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cool lookin gauges!!
the max PSI of your lift pump is less than 30 PSI?
the one on my 444E is 72..
-Christopher
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03-22-2017, 08:47 AM
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#24
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Colorado
Posts: 2,359
Year: 1993
Coachwork: bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins, Allison AT1545
Rated Cap: 2
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
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lol, anyone notice the cheapo plastic clock taped onto the gauges?
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03-22-2017, 08:49 AM
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#25
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Ft Loramie, OH
Posts: 52
Year: 1999
Coachwork: BlueBird
Engine: 5.9L Cummins
Rated Cap: 66
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Quote:
Originally Posted by turf
lol, anyone notice the cheapo plastic clock taped onto the gauges?
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LOL. I didn't see that originally!
From what I have read the Cummins pumps will not be over 20 max psi on fuel.
Nick
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03-22-2017, 08:56 AM
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#26
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by turf
lol, anyone notice the cheapo plastic clock taped onto the gauges?
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NO I musta been blinded by the bad-assness.
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03-22-2017, 10:39 AM
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#27
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Ft Loramie, OH
Posts: 52
Year: 1999
Coachwork: BlueBird
Engine: 5.9L Cummins
Rated Cap: 66
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I have one other issue. My fuel gauge shows incorrectly.
Tank filled = 2/3 on the gauge.
40 gallons left (60 gal tank) = 1/3 on the gauge.
Does that sound like a sending unit issue? Other issue? Anybody ever replace one? Do I have to drop the whole tank?
Nick
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03-24-2017, 04:40 PM
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#28
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Colorado
Posts: 2,359
Year: 1993
Coachwork: bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins, Allison AT1545
Rated Cap: 2
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i think i've heard others say the same thing. i know my fuel gauge reads wrong to the advantage of the driver.
i have a 60 gallon tank and the needle is on empty when there is 20 gallons left.
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03-24-2017, 09:09 PM
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#29
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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I've been a pilot for 30 years and I have never flown a plane with that many gauges! Just too much $hit to keep up with.
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03-25-2017, 11:55 AM
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#30
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: SW New Hampshire
Posts: 1,334
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tango
I've been a pilot for 30 years and I have never flown a plane with that many gauges! Just too much $hit to keep up with.
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Oh, cool! I have my license as well, although I haven't flown since 9/11. (You don't want to know what kind of hoops you have to jump through to fly the airspace around here, let alone base your plane inside the TCA.) I think gauges are still easier than the fly-by-wire flat screens that the world has gone to now. That's a subject for a different thread, though.
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03-27-2017, 11:26 AM
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#31
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2014
Location: West Ohio
Posts: 3,708
Year: 1984
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: International 1753
Engine: 6.9 International
Rated Cap: 65
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tango
I've been a pilot for 30 years and I have never flown a plane with that many gauges! Just too much $hit to keep up with.
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Exactly why most fleets are going to the bare basics. Just too much $hit to keep up with that most drivers forget to pay attention to the main thing, and that's the road.
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04-05-2017, 08:21 AM
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#32
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
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Christ the money I've spent with them on the RX-7/8 build!! I could have bought 4 buses and had money left over.
All of my gauges work. The fuel, oil pressure, oil temp, and coolant (???) are all on a single multi function gauge. It also has the typical car range of L and H. That, while it works, has got to go!!
I want individual decidated gauges. I'll end up with something like the pics you posted. Because of my advanced years, I prefer analog gauges so it'll look like some off the Wright brothers' airplane. I used a dual analog from an aircraft supplier in the FrankeinB (RX-7/ .
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04-05-2017, 08:24 AM
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#33
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterMerck
I do have:
"Fuel, MPH, RPM, Water temp, Oil Pressure, & Voltage"
That is all on a switch on the dash. Multi-gauge kind of setup.
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Yeah, that. Only my speedo is separate. Don't like it.
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04-05-2017, 08:31 AM
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#34
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by turf
lol, anyone notice the cheapo plastic clock taped onto the gauges?
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No but that is likely to be the first "upgrade". I need to open a new bank account to get the free clock with the double sided sticky tape. Do they even give those away any more?
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04-05-2017, 08:35 AM
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#35
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterMerck
I have one other issue. My fuel gauge shows incorrectly.
Tank filled = 2/3 on the gauge.
40 gallons left (60 gal tank) = 1/3 on the gauge.
Does that sound like a sending unit issue? Other issue? Anybody ever replace one? Do I have to drop the whole tank?
Nick
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That sounds normal to me and came with a warning from the school guy. "Don't believe the fuel gauge until you get use to them." I have a 60 and with a hair less than a 1/4 left, I put in 37 gallons. I dunno where the rest of the gas is.
My Dakota gauge went nuts on me and left me on the side of the road once. 3/4 on the needle and the tank empty. I figured the ex had put $20 in it and didn't reset the trip meter. I'll never believe ANY fuel gauge again. I use MPG and odometer.
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04-05-2017, 08:37 AM
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#36
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,835
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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my "clock" was first my cell phone holder on the windshield.. my current Clock is a time stamp across the top of the 10" center screen that displays all my gauges in real numbers...
analog face gauges look cool... but really when depoending on how you turn your head your oil P can " vary" by 10.. yeah I like reading a number that says 43 PSI.. rather than well maybe its 33 or maybe its 53..
-Christopher
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04-05-2017, 09:42 AM
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#37
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Here is an old racers' trick...
Clock all of your gauges so that all of the needles point straight up when the readings are "normal". All it takes is one quick glance to see if anything is out of bounds.
At 200 mph you don't want to have your eyes off the track for long.
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04-05-2017, 10:00 AM
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#38
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tango
Here is an old racers' trick...
Clock all of your gauges so that all of the needles point straight up when the readings are "normal". All it takes is one quick glance to see if anything is out of bounds.
At 200 mph you don't want to have your eyes off the track for long.
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Nice trick but that sounds like a fancy bunch of gauges. Or are you talking about just rotating teh body os that 0 is at 5 o'clock instead of 7 or 8 where it would normally be.
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04-05-2017, 10:12 AM
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#39
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Colorado
Posts: 2,359
Year: 1993
Coachwork: bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins, Allison AT1545
Rated Cap: 2
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200mph in a bus would be awesome!!!!!
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04-05-2017, 11:03 AM
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#40
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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To go that fast I think you'd best go with one of those airplane fusilages attached to the bus to reduce wind resistance. Maybe some wings too in case you get airborn.
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