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Old 08-26-2015, 09:33 AM   #41
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Old 08-26-2015, 11:34 AM   #42
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Old 08-27-2015, 10:11 PM   #43
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Picked up a 50cc 2 stroke today for CHEAP. 2000 Derbi Atlantis. With extra parts bike.
Not too common around these parts at all. Pics to come when there's light.
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Old 08-30-2015, 06:45 AM   #44
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Finally got the clutch and gears all back together on Ole Yeller. Then twisted off an exhaust stud...
Is this scooter cursed? I'll be putting Charlie Brown stripes on it using some black vinyl.
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Old 09-09-2015, 03:11 PM   #45
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Hey sorry to hear about the exhaust stud on the honda. Those are a bear when they snap off.
Thoughts on your clutch, I've had lots of issues over the years with old honda scooter transmissions and keep in mind the scoring on the clutch shoes is no big deal. Infact it's often the polishing of the shoes that makes the trans slip, studder, make weird noises.

Take yourself a good hind file and score them up nicely with crosshatches like you are prepping a bicycle tube to be patched. Slap that cover back on, and assuming you have the correct drive belt, I bet that transmission is way more quiet
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Old 09-09-2015, 03:24 PM   #46
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I'm on my third clutch set and second final drive set with gears and bearings replaced.

Got the stud out by making a slot in it with a dremel and carefully and forcefully backed it out with a screwdriver. I let some PB Blaster soak on it for a couple hours before attempting that.

I scuffed the shoes and bell pretty well the last repair attempt. I'm considering trying a couple mods of my own. Maybe cut some slots in the shoes and/or drill some holes in the bell. Aftermarket stuff is available for about every other scooter. Just not these 80's honda designs.
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Old 09-09-2015, 04:27 PM   #47
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3rd Clutch?
replaced gears and bearing?

you should get 14k to 20k miles on the Honda clutch
6k miles on the drive belt Minimum.


are you talking about having replaced the final drive gears? as in, on the other side of the engine that your rear tire is mounted to!? Those never get replaced. the transmission is designed so that the clutch side with belt and variaritor takes most of the beating, and hense the belt and rollers change every 6k miles or more

How many miles are on this scooter and what exactly is is doing that won't go away. This
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Old 09-09-2015, 04:35 PM   #48
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It functions and rides great, but the clutch lets out a shriek every time it engages.
I have three CH80's and started swapping out parts and trying different "fixes". I only did the final drive as I was bored and desperate.
The guys on the scooter forums aren't very helpful and if it isn't solved with new rollers and a belt they have no clue.
A couple of them have tried to help. I've went through the service manual with a fine tooth comb and have rebuilt everything under the side cover. New rear wheel bearing and seal, new gears and bearings, two variators, two sets of rollers, three clutch "packs" aka the driven face assembly.
Tried scuffing the clutches and bell, the bell is a brand new oem honda part, too.
The belt and everything else is more or less new. Its been gone through extensively and exhaustively.
I'm no slouch when it comes to fixing two wheelers. I did 18 months of the MMI Harley program in Orlando and was in the top of the class for sure.
NOTHING mechanical has ever given me such a fight as fixing this damned clutch.

I can tell you do know scoots, though. Any ideas from here?

oh and it is a really clean low mile 2001. Had 4400 when I got it. 4650 or so now.
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Old 09-11-2015, 09:52 AM   #49
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Scootie, looks like your last post was cut short, and you haven't been back.
That's sure a bummer. Was hoping to continue this discussion!
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Old 09-11-2015, 07:55 PM   #50
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my helix lets out squeaks as it takes off, I just ignore it since I had new clutch shoes put in at about 2000 miles ago and the belt was also new, I will worry when it graduates to a grinding noise or it quits moving
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