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Old 06-14-2017, 06:45 PM   #11
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Since a running engine simply stopped I'd say it's fair to say the fuel stopped flowing. For lack of better suggestions could this be your fuel shutoff selenoid? They fail infrequently, but tend to get overlooked when they do fail. Some of us like the manual fuel shutoffs.

It would still turn over Robin if that was the case. But it doesn't want to.

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Old 06-14-2017, 07:20 PM   #12
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Are you still thinking it's the ignitions switch? This one seems confusing because it acts like an interlock problem, but the bus shouldn't have shut down by itself.

It's always interesting to follow these threads because I'm so bad at electrical.
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Old 06-15-2017, 07:34 AM   #13
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It sounds an awful lot like the interlock for a fried positive battery cable. I have seen pictures of battery cables that rot from the inside out and look perfectly good. If the positive cable off the battery is shot you won't get power to anything. Unless there are secondary cables that go to the fuse panel and low voltage stuff

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Old 06-15-2017, 08:15 AM   #14
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Could also be a dead short across cells in the battery. Most "electronic" vehicles will respond that way. My 4 Runner is on it's way to the shop with that issue as we speak. Want to get the alt checked before installing the new batt.
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Old 06-18-2017, 10:24 PM   #15
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I have been have some small issues with my T444e (2000) - when driving. As I am accelerating - at times - it sounds like the engine stalls and then starts again.
Someone mentioned the fuel line - which makes sense - if the fuel filter clogs - will that cause the bus to seem to stall while driving?

I don't know where the fuel filter is - but is that an easy fix?
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I have been have some small issues with my T444e (2000) - when driving. As I am accelerating - at times - it sounds like the engine stalls and then starts again.
Someone mentioned the fuel line - which makes sense - if the fuel filter clogs - will that cause the bus to seem to stall while driving?

I don't know where the fuel filter is - but is that an easy fix?
That sounds exactly like a clogged filter. Should be a canister filter (like a big oil filter). May be 2 filters, trace the lines from the tank to the block.

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I have been have some small issues with my T444e (2000) - when driving. As I am accelerating - at times - it sounds like the engine stalls and then starts again.
Someone mentioned the fuel line - which makes sense - if the fuel filter clogs - will that cause the bus to seem to stall while driving?

I don't know where the fuel filter is - but is that an easy fix?
Easy fix??? That should be routine maintenance!!!

Fuel filters on diesel engines should be replaced on a regular basis, typically at least every other oil change (or every oil change, if you stretch out your service intervals). On my Volvo we have a 35K Mile oil change interval, and the fuel filters get changed every time (or should).

Signs your fuel filters need changing - starts up and idles fine, good acceleration up to a point, at which the engine give no more power - it might "drop to idle" or simply not rev any higher. Will achieve highway speed, but going up even a slight hill, power will drop drastically. Essentially, the engine is starving for fuel. Those with a clear canister type filter will see fuel all the way to the top.

Most engines aren't too difficult to do this, the trick is to do your best to avoid the system losing prime (getting air in the system). Naturally a certain amount of air is inevitable. For the spin-on filters, fill them with fuel before installation. For the cartridge (canister) types, especially the clear plastic types, there's a cap on top that you can remove to pour some fuel in, once it's reassembled. For some of the older engines, you'll have the "sock" type filters which retain quite a bit of fuel (only the cap comes off and not much fuel is lost). Many systems have 2 filters and some may even have 3. *CHANGE THEM ALL* (does this sound like the voice of personal experience talking?) Some systems also have a water separator, drain that too, if it has one. Those that don't, often the fuel filters serve as water separators (so don't worry about it).

Once all this is done (and everything is ready to go) start the engine. Give it some throttle. It'll run rough (and may take some starting) but soon it will purge all the air and run smooth again.
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the fuel filter on the 444E is a dark colored canister on top of the engine right in the middle.. the cap is ribbed and unscrews.. there is an O-ring to make the seal.
*SOME* of them have a square hole in the center you can put a ratchet in and unscrew the lid.. many you just grab hold of the ribs and turn.. sometimes you have to take a a ratchet extension and set up against one of the ribs then tap with a rubber mallet..

if you have a choice get the new filter element that includes the lid and O-ring.. the lids can crack easily when removed.


as for the OP, when you turn the key to ON, im assuming you get the Wait-start light and the WARN engine light is also on for a time?

if the ECM is not properly powering up you wont have the WARN light show up...

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Excellent - thanks for the information - I have yet to do a service on the bus - I've only put on about 600 miles - and the fluids look to have been changed / filled before I got the bus.
I will take it in for a full service and then work on how to do most of it myself.

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I like a shop all the way up in Hudson called Feolas.. they did a full service on both my busses... they have various packages you can do.. I didnt have a good place in florida to work on my bus and 1100 miles to hoio was long so I had them do it all.. which I think was like $950, they checked and adjusted brakes, replaced coolant, oil, tranny fluid, diff fluid, fuel filters, trans filter, air filter(actually on red bus they deducted air filter stating mine was nearly new already).. they did a bunch of stuff... you can choose any or all... they seem like good peoiple there..
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