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Old 03-02-2019, 10:44 AM   #1
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2005 Chevy 3500 Short Bus Starter issue

Why is my 2005 Chevy Express 6.6 Duramax turbo short bus starts on its own with the key turned on?
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Old 03-02-2019, 12:10 PM   #2
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Swap the starter relay for a known good one and see what happens. Sounds like the relay is fried and remains closed allowing starting with key on.


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Old 03-03-2019, 09:17 AM   #3
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Thanks John sorry the correct thing is when the key is out of the ignition. Can you let me know where the starter relay is?
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Old 03-03-2019, 09:57 AM   #4
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Maybe I am thick in the head, well not maybe, but the bus starts without the key in the ignition? What does that, remote start? Or is the ign switch staying in the start position with the key out? That is a pretty strange condition. How long has it been acting like that and does everything else act normal? Do you drive it like that? Can you stall it at all?



To find the starter relay trace wire back from the starter solenoid and you should find it in one of those black plastic fuse boxes or under the dash.
Pull the covers on all your fuse boxes and the directory might tell you where the relay is if it is that particular box.


Should be Duramax drawings out there online or someone here who has one might better direct you.


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Old 03-03-2019, 10:09 AM   #5
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Hello John for what I have so far is the Bendix in the solenoid may be sticking in the flywheel or the starter relay could be the issue. The issue is when the key is out of the ignition when in park on the driveway battery fully charged the starter will engage on its own and attempt to starter the engine stop and repeat process over and over again. Basically, the Bendix spins the flywheel draining the battery. The engine does not start but is attempting to. Sorry if I didn't explain it better. Question is how do you troubleshoot this from what point a) wiring, b) relay, c) solenoid?
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Old 03-03-2019, 10:21 AM   #6
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Hello John for what I have so far is the Bendix in the solenoid may be sticking in the flywheel or the starter relay could be the issue. The issue is when the key is out of the ignition when in park on the driveway battery fully charged the starter will engage on its own and attempt to starter the engine stop and repeat process over and over again. Basically, the Bendix spins the flywheel draining the battery. The engine does not start but is attempting to. Sorry if I didn't explain it better. Question is how do you troubleshoot this from what point a) wiring, b) relay, c) solenoid?



Ok starting to understand more now, thanks.


Well, easy stuff first so find that relay and pull it out. Replace it with another the same.
That energizes the solenoid on the starter which has to be happening but shouldn't if the starter relay is good. So, dig in and find it.


The engine isn't starting because the glowplugs haven't heated up when cold, so more than likely is faulty start relay.



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Old 03-03-2019, 10:30 AM   #7
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Thanks John would the starter relay be in a fuse box in the engine bay?
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Hello John for what I have so far is the Bendix in the solenoid may be sticking in the flywheel or the starter relay could be the issue. The issue is when the key is out of the ignition when in park on the driveway battery fully charged the starter will engage on its own and attempt to starter the engine stop and repeat process over and over again. Basically, the Bendix spins the flywheel draining the battery. The engine does not start but is attempting to. Sorry if I didn't explain it better. Question is how do you troubleshoot this from what point a) wiring, b) relay, c) solenoid?
had that problem in my pickup one time - key was in my pocket when I heard the starter grinding over - the motor didn't start because the ignition was off - turned out to be a short in the starter
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How did ya fix it?
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How did ya fix it?
replaced the starter
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