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Old 03-23-2019, 08:57 PM   #1
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97 International 3800 remove switches / lights

Would like to try to redo my switch panel for the bus, have some questions if anybody has experience.

Wondering if i need any of the small lights, on the panel, not sure what they do?
Is it a possibility that any of them will blink or have some type of engine code that i need to be concerned about? or are they just indicators that something is on?

I have heard that it isn't great to get rid of wires, but this is a mess.
I am only using about half of the switches now, and not sure i need any of the lights.

For those of you that do remove wires, how do you go about it? how do you
deal with the ones that go into the plastic connector pieces?


Thanks,
dave
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Old 03-23-2019, 09:05 PM   #2
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Old 03-23-2019, 09:07 PM   #3
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They make a tool to remove the metal end from the plastic socket. Ore cut them short and heat shrink the end.
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Old 03-23-2019, 10:02 PM   #4
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I keep the wires running front to back and up into the header panels, they might come in handy if you need to add a light or fan or such you have a wire there. I capped mine off rolled them up and tied them out of the way. Most of the pilot lamps on a 97 are just school lights, though the heater pump or heated mirrors might have a pilot lamp so you don’t forget and leave them on forever. Your ECM codes come up on the cluster , if you have an MD Allison trans It will have a check trans light also in. The cluster. You can delete several switches just for school light related stuff.. again I saved the wires
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Old 03-23-2019, 10:38 PM   #5
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I keep the wires running front to back and up into the header panels, they might come in handy if you need to add a light or fan or such you have a wire there. I capped mine off rolled them up and tied them out of the way. Most of the pilot lamps on a 97 are just school lights, though the heater pump or heated mirrors might have a pilot lamp so you donít forget and leave them on forever. Your ECM codes come up on the cluster , if you have an MD Allison trans It will have a check trans light also in. The cluster. You can delete several switches just for school light related stuff.. again I saved the wires
I'm debating keeping the stock dome lights as I will have lights with switches in their locations. Should I keep some controlled from the cockpit? Where can we get labels for these switches? I think I am going to drill a forward rib and run any wires needed on that side through, instead of them running all the way down the drivers side, across the rear, and then all the way to the front for a speaker and a dome light. A lot of wasted wire.
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Old 03-24-2019, 04:17 AM   #6
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Mine seem to have more direct routes , there a chase going up behind the driver window, some go up and back others up and forward, none go back around and forward on mine, dome lights are a preference really, my busses are unconverted so I have all the dome lights but used school light wires for other things.. A/C sensors on my one bus.
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Old 03-24-2019, 07:38 AM   #7
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Mine also has a couple of wires and the window washing fluid tube that comes up right behind the front window. Drivers side
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