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Old 07-10-2012, 11:14 AM   #1
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Re: electrical problems emergency exit Bluebird

everything connected right, and no power after starter change, but starter working normally means either bus wire from starter to dash unhooked or broken, or relay/fuse bad.
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Old 07-12-2012, 08:26 PM   #2
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Re: electrical problems emergency exit Bluebird

I'm not an expert on Blue Bird wiring - I just used to put radios in them. I would go back to your BB mechanic and ask about the next steps. Tell him everything you have tried, and ask for more suggestions.

If it was only no start, I understand lots of buses will not start if the rear door is not properly set to transport children, There is a lot of heartburn expressed here on Skoolies trying to find the way properly bypass the starter lock-out wiring when disconnecting the buzzers.

But if the whole dash is completely dead, it seems like maybe a hot wire at the back door touched the chassis, and blew a fuse or a fusible link. Fusible links are pieces of wire designed to burn out as a last resort if fuses don't protect the wiring, and they give up the ghost instead of having a vehicle go up in flames. I don't know if BB uses them or not. Your expert should know.

Worst case, if you have a dash that uses printed circuit boards, and had shorted a wire that passes through the PCB on the way to the exit door, one of the copper strips could have burned up. These can be located by careful visual inspection once they are out of the dash. Burned circuit boards can usually be repaired by removing the damaged section, scraping the varnish off of the good copper to the right and left of the burned section, and soldering a piece of wire across the missing part.

In hindsight, testing the starter with a screwdriver probably should have been tried before replacing the old one.
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Old 07-18-2012, 06:39 PM   #3
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Re: electrical problems emergency exit Bluebird

I think I had a simular problem..... Turn the key and nothing..... blown Start fuse replace it and blew again... Dead short...... ended up being the netrual safety switch.... bus is running again.
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Old 07-22-2012, 10:56 AM   #4
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Re: electrical problems emergency exit Bluebird

look thru thhis site..... maybe a little help......

ask a Bluebird tec ..
http://www.justanswer.com/sip/blue-bird ... AD=1184453

wiring ........... http://service.blue-bird.com/WiringSchematics/

recalls ........... http://www.automotix.net/autorepair/rec ... 2000/1996/

service parts ... http://service.blue-bird.com/Parts/BBCV ... ineTrim.pd

Downloadable WIRING SCHEMATICS by Blue Bird body number ... http://www.westernbus.com/user_images/f ... 8-9-07.pdf

Instruction for downloading wiring diagrams ... http://www.westernbus.com/user_images/f ... matics.pdf

additional info ..., [PDF]
BLUE BIRD CUSTOMER SERVICE WEBSITE http://service.blue-bird ...
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Old 07-22-2012, 11:29 AM   #5
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Re: electrical problems emergency exit Bluebird

great links.

as far as starter wiring, it doesn't know whether it is factory wiring or yours, as long as it is done correctly
just as an example, i am rewiring my 49 chevy to put the battery etc back in the engine compartment instead of the trunk, and changing my key switch back to the dash.... and am changing it over to a ford solinoid on the 350 starter.

bus stuff isnt much different, although wire from the bus ign sw should go to a relay/ford soliniod if i were doing it.
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Old 07-22-2012, 03:19 PM   #6
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so motorpark where are u at,because i got a 94 tc2000 and might be able too look at it,,iam in GA be going to maryland next month
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Old 07-22-2012, 03:35 PM   #7
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They're in Portland, Maine...... motorpark tag on web site.
Or somewhere in PA..,.. Paper tag on bus.....
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Old 07-22-2012, 04:24 PM   #8
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to far north for me althought i have famely up there.i will not take my bus thought NY state.pa is as far has i go.
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Old 07-25-2012, 08:53 PM   #9
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how abour selling me a copy of them i try getting them thought blue bird with no luck 1 got a 94 tc2000 i need the dash and chassis
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