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Old 09-14-2018, 09:01 PM   #1
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Handicaplift working without ignition

Looking for a wiring schematic for a 2007 blue bird vision with a catepillar c7 engine: I would like to find out how to operate the handicapp lift without using the main batteries through the ignition: Also having problems with instrument panel gauges and lighting not working
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Old 09-14-2018, 09:16 PM   #2
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Are you planning on using separate batteries to run the lift? If so, find the positive(+) cable and negative (-) cables coming from the lift and cut and shorten them to where ever you place the new batteries. How will you charge the new batteries?
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Old 09-14-2018, 09:38 PM   #3
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hi,
exatly this i did. i wil let him run with the home batterys.
ther are leaving just 3 kable 1 positiv 1 negativ and 1 to the switc on the door. but i still just works with ignition!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 09-15-2018, 12:23 AM   #4
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so one big cable to negative, one big cable to positive..... there has to be some sort of control that you have to press to go up and to go down..... or other motions..... the big cables from the batteries go to an electric motor? that operates the lift? or goes to a hydraulic pump? The hand controller is _ I bet - enabled by power from the ignition. That wire, I bet a smallish one, is fed power from the ignition switch, now must be moved to the positive side of the battery like the big batterycable was moved. so the system works some thing like this -- a bit of a guess you know -- power comes from the ignition switch to the hand control, depending what is activated on the hand control, the power from the ignition is sent to a post on a relay, and that relay then connnect the big cable to the battery for up or down. along with various switches used for limits, and safeties throughout the system.

do you know how to find that little wire?

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Old 09-15-2018, 10:54 AM   #5
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hi wiliam thanks for your answer. can you tel me exact how i can find the wire
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ps where i found the fuse for the instrument panel?
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Old 09-15-2018, 12:44 PM   #6
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I would ask at your local handicap vehicle modification place,.. on my lift the tech was able to disable all interlocks in about 5 minutes,.. they would know what wire where it is and how to bypass it. there are a lot of things they can be disconnected if it is no longer a commercial vehicle( he asked me if the bus I have was a private vehicle and when I said yes he proceeded to yank interlock wires)
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Old 09-16-2018, 05:01 PM   #7
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thanks but the bus is not on the road at the moment.i am in the middle of the conversion. and midwest busses who is closed to me is not realy helpful because they just have thomas busses.i am still sticking with this proplem.
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Old 09-16-2018, 06:09 PM   #8
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the person you want to contact is the lift tech (what brand lift?) they are the ones who know the lift wiring and be able to tell you how to rewire it so it works all the time this is more of a lift issue than a bus issue the lift people would know the specifics of that brand lift wires no matter what vehicle it is installed in.
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exactly?

no, with out being able to see and test lines, I can not. I might be able to help you find it. Are you able disassemble the hand control yourself? do you know how to use a multi meter?

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Old 09-16-2018, 08:55 PM   #10
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find a private transportation company that has a few lifts. They will have a mechanic that will be able to fix your problem. Take cash, cold beer, or a bottle of whiskey along with. Make nice with him, sounds like you will need him down the road.
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