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Old 01-07-2019, 08:26 PM   #1
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Lithium Ion Batteries

What can you knowledgeable on LI batteries tell me about these, pros, cons? It would seem a 300ah battery for $500 is not a bad deal.

https://www.alibaba.com/product-deta...5dc8Za2QZa2QTi

I have a message in to the seller, but I believe you can order one at a time.
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Old 01-07-2019, 08:49 PM   #2
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What can you knowledgeable on LI batteries tell me about these, pros, cons? It would seem a 300ah battery for $500 is not a bad deal.

https://www.alibaba.com/product-deta...5dc8Za2QZa2QTi

I have a message in to the seller, but I believe you can order one at a time.
Shipping is probably what will kill you. After I followed one of your links to Alibaba the other day I messaged a seller about some AGM batteries that had a very appealing price...

"1.For 12V 200ah lead acid battery , the FOB price is US$210/unit ;

2.If you need 1 sample , we will send you sample by air , the freight cost is US$850 ;

3.If you buy 10pcs , we can send you batteries by sea, The shipping cost is US$285"
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Old 01-07-2019, 08:56 PM   #3
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Shipping is probably what will kill you. After I followed one of your links to Alibaba the other day I messaged a seller about some AGM batteries that had a very appealing price...

"1.For 12V 200ah lead acid battery , the FOB price is US$210/unit ;

2.If you need 1 sample , we will send you sample by air , the freight cost is US$850 ;

3.If you buy 10pcs , we can send you batteries by sea, The shipping cost is US$285"
That sucks that there's no free samples from China, a sample is paid for at full price and then priority shipping is added to get your sample quickly. On a side note, I sent a rare vintage motorcycle part to China to have some made for about a tenth of what it would cost here. Last trace showed it left Miami never to be seen again. I should have sent one that I had made here instead of the rare part, but wanted them to have the exact specs. Live and learn.
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Old 01-07-2019, 09:31 PM   #4
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They got back to me quick. I asked for shipped pricing on 2-300ah batteries that they show in the listing. They sent me back pricing for the 100ah ($36 and the 200ah ($74. I replied asking if that price included shipping and got a reply that said shipping on 2-200ah batteries would be $438. Works out to about $960ea. I'm sure I can find a better deal closer. I was interested in the 300ah units.
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Does that price include a BMS?

Any idea how they handle warranty or tech support?

I admire folks that are savvy enough to make their own DIY lithium battery setups successfully. I am not quite that adventurous.

Trojan FLA's for me....

I am very interested in how it plays out for you. I have looked at various items on Alibaba but never ordered from there. I have made small purchases on EBay that came from China and had good luck.

Keep us updated.
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Old 01-08-2019, 11:56 AM   #6
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I looked at the item on Alibaba. Do I understand that the 300ah 12v battery is $500?

That would work out to $1285 for two including shipping.

Hmmmmm....
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Old 01-08-2019, 07:53 PM   #7
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Alibiteme Maybe?

Those prices remind me of Ebay sellers who post a good price then ask a small fortune for shipping. Ali, bite me. Good luck on your quest and hope you can find decent deal.
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Yes - Thanks for the link. It sounds to me like there are several of us looking at lith batteries. I poked around more on the WWW since o1marc posted this. If my inquires turn up something reliable and cheap - I will reply back to ya'll.


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Old 01-11-2019, 04:35 PM   #9
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You'll notice I backed out of this after I posted the link. While the prices are much cheaper for the batteries coming out of China, the shipping makes them as expensive if not more than what could be obtained domestically. LI is the way to go but the upfront cost of almost 3 times the other options is hard to swallow but ultimately cheaper in the long run.
I'm still trying to get more info on the 300ah batteries they show in the price list. One place asked me if a 325ah/12.8v would work ?
Might be beneficial is say 5-10 of needed batteries and could get the shipping cost down.
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Old 01-11-2019, 04:59 PM   #10
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Hmmm.

OK. I managed to glean the name of a contact in Oregon who distributes a similar battery from the Chinese manufacturing sites. If he proves legit, and the price is right, I'll share it. I'm looking at 24v 100+ah.
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