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Old 08-27-2015, 10:57 AM   #11
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Actually, technically, well...sort of what I've seen is black is power and white is ground on bluebird busses.

But then all the other systems have other colors anyway.
I was still at the battery.
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Old 08-27-2015, 06:53 PM   #12
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I understand completely the frustration, I have worked customer service most of my life. That said it takes nothing to not be a dick (unless your name is Richard). I agree be concise and don't waste peoples precious time and for the love of god don't be a dirty hippy too misguided by "good vibrations" and completely lacking a plan.
The option to ignore idiots and time wasters on the board, and any other, is in your hands. Instead of getting into a berating session. Just click the x and move on with your life, if you don't have constructive things to say.

OR

Why don't you write an excellent "how to" with loads of good pictures, links and other resources then STICKY it so that people can bask in you knowledge with out bothering you.

OR

Make a new sections called the NOOBS playground where people can ask dumb questions and threads about such things can be moved to.
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Old 08-27-2015, 07:10 PM   #13
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Make a new sections called the NOOBS playground where people can ask dumb questions and threads about such things can be moved to.
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That right there is a great idea!
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Old 08-28-2015, 12:53 AM   #14
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Roger that...we were all newbies at something at sometime. Enough already with the arrogant, superior whining. How about some simple good manners people and welcome newcomers with a bit more courtesy.

(Please notice I intentionally avoided using "common courtesy" since like "common sense", these days, there is nothing "common " about either one at all.)
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Old 08-28-2015, 01:23 AM   #15
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Ok, going on tango's observation I'll make a reset the conversation post.

If brady78 is still watching these posts, I'd like to ask: which electrical system are you talking about?I'm sort of going to guess you are talking about the run of wiring to the back of the bus, the ones that illuminate the tail lights and school flashers up top.

Yes/no/close?

PS: in the electrical box your primary grounds to the body ground post are white, and your primary positive feeds from switched and unswitched power are black.

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Roger that...we were all newbies at something at sometime. Enough already with the arrogant, superior whining. How about some simple good manners people and welcome newcomers with a bit more courtesy.

(Please notice I intentionally avoided using "common courtesy" since like "common sense", these days, there is nothing "common " about either one at all.)
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Old 08-28-2015, 10:32 AM   #16
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Thanks Aaron...I wasn't really directing my annoyance necessarily at this thread or anything in it. It was simply at the overall level of pissy responses that seems to have taken over the whole forum whenever newbies ask "dumb" questions. What is truly dumb is the amount of negative energy that has been put into calling them down by the know-it-alls who seem to have nothing else to offer than vitriol.

I'll say it again...

I have always had a helluva lot more patience with sincere ignorance on a subject than I ever did with arrogance and bad manners.
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Old 08-28-2015, 06:24 PM   #17
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Thanks Aaron.

I'll say it again...

I have always had a helluva lot more patience with sincere ignorance on a subject than I ever did with arrogance and bad manners.
Yup.


We've removed a pile of posts that are offtopic. Folks - one more time:

Do NOT tell new members to "go search" for their answers.

You can bet that if someone took the time to register on the forum they have already been looking for help. Either offer up some assistance or don't post - plain and simple.
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Thanks Aaron...I wasn't really directing my annoyance necessarily at this thread or anything in it. It was simply at the overall level of pissy responses that seems to have taken over the whole forum whenever newbies ask "dumb" questions. What is truly dumb is the amount of negative energy that has been put into calling them down by the know-it-alls who seem to have nothing else to offer than vitriol.

I'll say it again...

I have always had a helluva lot more patience with sincere ignorance on a subject than I ever did with arrogance and bad manners.
That's a geat way of looking at it.
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That's a geat way of looking at it.

I agree with my friend here.
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