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Old 05-17-2017, 09:39 AM   #1
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Replace Flasher Lights with Clear Lense

I want to change my flashing lights at the top with either clear lenses or flood lights. I don't want to remove and cover them over with metal. I am sure others have done this. Where did you get the clear lens or is there flood lights that are 7 inches that will fit right into the hole?

I also want to remove them from the flasher so they don't flash when I turn them on. Is there an easy way to do this?
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Old 05-17-2017, 10:50 AM   #2
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To piggyback onto your question, while I know it's not legal to have the flashing lights operational...are you allowed to rig the back lights up as additional brake and turn signal lights?
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To piggyback onto your question, while I know it's not legal to have the flashing lights operational...are you allowed to rig the back lights up as additional brake and turn signal lights?
I did see another thread which talked about turning them into turn and/or brake lights. And there were DOT code references so it was detailed. I don't remember where I saw it though. I want to turn mine into flood lights so I can light up the front or rear of the bus when appropriate.
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Old 05-17-2017, 12:18 PM   #4
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Old 05-17-2017, 03:09 PM   #5
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Thanks for that great information! I have already downloaded the catalouge from Midwest Bus Supplies and I need a towel to wipe away my drool!!!!
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Old 05-17-2017, 06:51 PM   #6
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I got my clear lens from a bus parts company, here in Ontario , just the clear covers , but I'm going to take them off and cover them up. Personally I just don't like the look, and they really don't provide great lighting, that's just me.
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Old 05-17-2017, 07:52 PM   #7
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Currently, I have turned my rear flashers into additional brake lights and turn signals and I plan on doing the same with the fronts. I'll make them both amber lenses and leave the inside ones as running lights and the outer lights will be running/turn signals. I've ordered my 7" lights from Unityparts.com and midwestbusparts.com. Typically Unity has been cheaper. It's pretty simple to do. Just find the necessary wires in the harness and tap into them. I figure the more brake/turn/tail lights the better.
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On my old bus the top lense covers were removed and those halogens reached out about 1/4 mile.. Any idea how much light they put out with the clear lenses like on my back up lights?
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I want to change my flashing lights at the top with either clear lenses or flood lights. I don't want to remove and cover them over with metal. I am sure others have done this. Where did you get the clear lens or is there flood lights that are 7 inches that will fit right into the hole?

I also want to remove them from the flasher so they don't flash when I turn them on. Is there an easy way to do this?
On my bus the flashing module was removed so they were inoperable as flashing. MD requires the lights to be removed, covered, or repurposed. In my case I swapped the lenses front and rear. The rears are parking lights and all red. The fronts are all amber and are turn signals.

The fronts I disconnected the wires from the outside junction box and ran a jumper wire between the two bulbs. Then ran another and tied it to the turn signals in the nose of the bus. I need to go back into the junction box and tie it to the side markers just to make the wiring cleaner.

A word of caution to those of you wanting to use them as floods with the 7" bulbs. For whatever reason, mine are 2 filament bulbs. I've never seen a bus with "high beam" flashers. The bulbs themselves only have 2 terminals and are NOT grounded thru the bulb itself so no clue why they have 2 filaments. Anywho, I left the 7" bulbs in there. With the 4 as parking lights in the rear and always on (not flashing and not brakes), they literally melted a 25 amp fuse. I don't mean it blew the fuse. The fuse actually held but got so hot, it melted the body of the fuse!!

I bought a bunch of 1156 sockets and bulbs. Replaced all the 7" flood light with single filament bulbs. The original 15 amp fuse now holds just fine. The 7" bulbs are 75W. Four bulbs, 75W each, 300W total, @ 12V = 25A. Plus whatever bulbs were originally part of the parking light circuit. I was just over 25A but not a sudden surge so it didn't blow.

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To piggyback onto your question, while I know it's not legal to have the flashing lights operational...are you allowed to rig the back lights up as additional brake and turn signal lights?
MD is full of commie wanna-bes but it is perfectly legal to repurpose your lights. Additionally, you are allowed as many side, clearance, turn, parking, and brake lights as you wish. Look at the semi trucks on the interstate. Some of those guys are rolling Xmas trees.

If you guys go the route of floods, they have to be covered when not in use. You can cover them with something as simple as a sock and pass but 1) socks wouldn't work well 2) reaching up to cover them every time you drive somewhere would get old even if you used something fancier than a sock.
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Old 05-19-2017, 12:48 PM   #10
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I found clear 7" lenses at an RV salvage yard - no idea how they got there but they work. I put the ambers on the out side - and will try to convert those to directionals on the front and back - the others I have as white for now.
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I will try to convert the two middle rear lights into additional run / brake lights... because people still never seem to see me coming!!



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I want to change my flashing lights at the top with either clear lenses or flood lights. I don't want to remove and cover them over with metal. I am sure others have done this. Where did you get the clear lens or is there flood lights that are 7 inches that will fit right into the hole?

I also want to remove them from the flasher so they don't flash when I turn them on. Is there an easy way to do this?
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I will try to convert the two middle rear lights into additional run / brake lights... because people still never seem to see me coming!!
Here you go.

I'm still not sure how you can miss a bus. Mine is still covered in reflective tape but the bus with me on the trip home had no tail light (blown fuse that we didn't know about) and it still lights up like an Xmas tree with all the tape.
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Any suggestions on which bulbs to use. I want to convert flashers to floods for backing up.
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Old 08-17-2017, 10:49 AM   #13
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reverse light covers

search for reverse light covers on bus supply sites, of the same size, that is how I found them,
I did not change the bulbs, they are ok for area lights but they light up the hood a lot so they are not very good while driving,

you might want to hook them up so you can just turn one or two on at a time, they will drain your battery fast if the engine is not running
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search for reverse light covers on bus supply sites, of the same size, that is how I found them
Yep, I actually replaced my halogen flasher lights with normal 7" brake lights or turn signals and then I swapped over to LED 1156 or 1157 bulbs depending on the application. For nice, bright reverse lights you could use a bulb similar to this.

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Great thank you. Any threads about rewiring to stop those lights from flashing?
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Great thank you. Any threads about rewiring to stop those lights from flashing?
I started to rewire mine but I've got a bulkhead in the rear I couldn't get thru. Spent hours messing with it. Then it dawned on me that everything runs thru the junction box outside the driver window. Swap the wires from flasher to the same terminal the brakes are on. Done!!! Easy peasy.
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I am still trying to get the top flashers connected to the directionals - it should be a lot easier to find those wires...


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I started to rewire mine but I've got a bulkhead in the rear I couldn't get thru. Spent hours messing with it. Then it dawned on me that everything runs thru the junction box outside the driver window. Swap the wires from flasher to the same terminal the brakes are on. Done!!! Easy peasy.
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I am still trying to get the top flashers connected to the directionals - it should be a lot easier to find those wires...
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Most NAPA stores have a GROTE catalog.GROTE is the manufacturer for a lot of those lights and lenses. I found new exact replacement lenses and 1156 bulb upgrades and am going to wire ny front and back wires from the flasher module to seperate toggle switches for star backup lights and front flood lights as needed
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