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Old 09-06-2015, 08:52 AM   #101
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I was reading this thread because I have no idea where to go to get started with the electrical on my bus. I am quite adept at the construction and plumbing, but the 12 volt vs 120, solar and shore power, etc, are outside the scope of my knowledge base. I must admit, I sure did get some super big laughs, though! I think I will look at some additional threads or hire an electrician.
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I was reading this thread because I have no idea where to go to get started with the electrical on my bus. I am quite adept at the construction and plumbing, but the 12 volt vs 120, solar and shore power, etc, are outside the scope of my knowledge base. I must admit, I sure did get some super big laughs, though! I think I will look at some additional threads or hire an electrician.
I suck at working with electricity.
I have a good friend who is a genius when it comes to the stuff... He's sort of an electrical "savant". He and I will be working together when it comes to anything involving electricity. Friends can make ALL the difference.
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Old 09-06-2015, 12:27 PM   #103
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Old 09-06-2015, 02:05 PM   #104
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Dond, thank you for posting that! That has given me the guts to try the electrical myself. The way that is written out and broken down makes it way less intimidating. Again, thanks.
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Don't forget, if your box doesn't have an earth, a bolt through it can become the earth - simply wiure the earth from the inpout to the box then the earth's from your outlets toi the box
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Electricity is one of those things that once you get it you go ahhh it all makes sense now. I took this material science class in college and it took my understanding of how electricity works on a physics level to a whole new category. Then you understand how and why a breaker works and how and why things will arc.
Heres something to keep in mind all metal touching all other metal can share electrons that means that you can prove that an atom of steel at the front of your bus it grounded to your electrical box shares and electron with any other piece of metal, like another RV, hooked to the ground at the hookup.
That is how powerful the sharing and movements of electrons (electricity) is, that is why you really need to understand it before trying to defy the standards.
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Wow! Who invented the kooky way of identifying live and neutral by having a silver screw and an allegedly brass looking screw?

Much easier just to stamp L for live and N for neutral on the back of the socket!

Anyway, the fruits of my labors so far...uploadfromtaptalk1441586076792.jpg

Yup... The main cable is 6-2 so plenty room for expansion as it'll carry 55 amps. The socket is riveted to the side of the breaker box and is the fridge socket. That's wired with 10-2 and that's good for 30A. The socket is good for 20A.

The breakers are 15A.

Plenty safety margin there. The main breaker goes underneath the bus in the cable compartment the hillbillies built that I'll have to demolish and rebuild. It's made of plywood that's badly rotted.

The cable goes through a neat rubber grommet that acts as strain relief and should block critters.uploadfromtaptalk1441586419963.jpg

The 10-2 cable is definitely hard to work with but since I only needed a 15 foot roll of it, I'm OK with that!

Aside from two more sockets and the underbody breaker box, the electrics are pretty much completed.
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Well, I didn't get enough done. I'm sore from being under the countertop in weird contortions.

Both of the remaining socket boxes are fitted. The over code 30A cable is a tricky beast to handle! I've got one length as far as the breaker box but that's as far as it goes. I couldn't find my hacksaw with my flashlight!

I did fit strain relief collars. That was a good suggestion. I'm thinking that by next weekend the electrics might be completed.
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Do you even have a bus? Have you ever done any electrics? Have you even left high school yet?
Come on Zaphod. You ask the people of this this most excellent forum for thoughts on your electrical system then inform us that our electrical code is a "kludge" and "ridiculous" and *then* proceed to ignore most of the suggestions given.

What, exactly, did you think was going to happen?

For future reference, it's bad form to criticize a foreign country's technology, especially when it's clear that you don't understand it, then act superior when its poor, misguided citizens point out your (potentially lethal) mistakes. People generally respond poorly to that behavior.

We're generally happy to help but if you act like an ass we're also happy to watch you fail.
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Do you even have a bus? Have you ever done any electrics? Have you even left high school yet?

Who are you again?

I own 3 buses, have taken two of them to level beyond your imagination, and make part of my living doing electrical in homes and businesses.

For the record, I never stepped foot in a high school, and only went to grade school for 2.3 years.

School was a waste of time for me. Everyone was holding me back.

The fact that you asked that question proves you never did any home work on this site before making that dangerous mess your cobbling together.

How many build threads have you read?

Why did you come here from your great country with all the superior wiring methods?

I find your fails entertaining, and great for educational examples of what not to do for the newbies.

So by all means, carry on. I can't believe your still posting.

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