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Old 09-01-2015, 11:19 AM   #41
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Speaking of pink and blue I was idly looking at laptops online at Walmart. Their cheapest were $170 and available in pink or blue.

Now when Ubuntu comes out for them, they sound ideal for a mobile lifestyle.
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Speaking of pink and blue I was idly looking at laptops online at Walmart. Their cheapest were $170 and available in pink or blue.

Now when Ubuntu comes out for them, they sound ideal for a mobile lifestyle.
I'm on a laptop right now using Ubuntu.
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A 15 amp breaker on a 30 amp (10 gauge) wire will be safe but will limit you to a total 15 amp draw. To get full power you need a 30 amp breaker on the incoming hot shore power wire.

You seem to be wandering around in the dark here. The danger you're risking is not to yourself so much because you installed the system and *presumably* know the limitations of it. But the next owner won't know that you made it up as you went along and may pay dearly for it. You call our system a "kludge" but that's exactly what you're building yourself.

I recently worked on a house where the owner had mis-wired a light switch on the neutral side instead of the hot side. The switch turned off the light but didn't kill power to the fixture. I found out about the problem the hard way.

My brother in law made up a "suicide cable" to hook up a generator to his house. It worked fine for him because he knew the danger but when his daughter tried to use the extension cord to power her vacuum she got shocked.

Please, learn how to do the job properly or have someone knowledgeable do it for you. The life you save may be your own.
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My brother in law made up a "suicide cable" to hook up a generator to his house. It worked fine for him because he knew the danger but when his daughter tried to use the extension cord to power her vacuum she got shocked.

Please, learn how to do the job properly or have someone knowledgeable do it for you. The life you save may be your own.

The first time I have heard of a suicide cable was this weekend at a presentation I attended.
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I'm on a laptop right now using Ubuntu.
Ubuntu has got so good now that I might go the Ubuntu route if the day comes that my macbook can't be resurrected.

I always see people fighting windows, steam coming out of their ears while proclaiming "but Windows is so good".
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A 15 amp breaker on a 30 amp (10 gauge) wire will be safe but will limit you to a total 15 amp draw. To get full power you need a 30 amp breaker on the incoming hot shore power wire.

You seem to be wandering around in the dark here. The danger you're risking is not to yourself so much because you installed the system and *presumably* know the limitations of it. But the next owner won't know that you made it up as you went along and may pay dearly for it. You call our system a "kludge" but that's exactly what you're building yourself.

I recently worked on a house where the owner had mis-wired a light switch on the neutral side instead of the hot side. The switch turned off the light but didn't kill power to the fixture. I found out about the problem the hard way.

My brother in law made up a "suicide cable" to hook up a generator to his house. It worked fine for him because he knew the danger but when his daughter tried to use the extension cord to power her vacuum she got shocked.

Please, learn how to do the job properly or have someone knowledgeable do it for you. The life you save may be your own.
Oh, I'll write it all down on the inside of the breaker box cover.

The small breaker box I've seen takes two breakers. One can feed one leg and the other can feed the other. The cables combined can carry 60A. The big breaker box is rated at 70A. The socket going on the outside is rated at 50A.

The wire from the socket splits when it hits the first breaker box. This section uses 50A cable. The first breaker box has two 15A breakers.

One breaker feeds the left side of the sub panel. The other feeds the right side. The cable for each side is 30A.

Advantage... When I'm on a 30A circuit, both breakers in the mini box can be on. On a 15A circuit, I turn one off and just have two active sockets.

All perfectly safe. Of course , as I said, a schematic will be drawn on the inside of the big breaker box door - not so much for the next owner but more for me because I don't remember everything!
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The first time I have heard of a suicide cable was this weekend at a presentation I attended.
I made one, so that shows you didn't read my build thread

I even put a warning label up

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labeling is a good thing

from my build thread
so here she is bare


the neutrals and grounds where easy



next needed to know which hot went were so I could "load" the 50 amp side

I salvaged the rear door buzzer



,a fuse,couple alligator clips and a "power source, 12 transformer"

I made a quick circuit checker, hot goes thru fuse to wire at plug (i used an old plug with pig tail just to plug into sockets)

then when you touch the (-) of the power source it will buzz alarm....easy peezee



done !!!!!

it's wired so if I have 50 amp I have 2 sockets on a seperate "leg" front ac or heater"



I "roughed in" another panel and it will be stored away in the bus...just incase...still very weird


I also decided to do this:



just incase....dunno...just incase
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I see them. Maybe you shoulld switch to Ubuntu now..
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