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Old 07-21-2009, 05:52 PM   #31
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on advice, what ever you do, dont mount batteries inverter charger etc at the very rear of your bus. I made that mistake and mounted under bed at the rear, it gets very warm when driving down the road, batteries and such dont like it that warm.
Thanks, I will take your advice! I am going to put everything by the front passenger wheelwell under the office desk/shipping table which should be somewhat cool & I am guessing it won't be completely enclosed...
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on advice, what ever you do, dont mount batteries inverter charger etc at the very rear of your bus. I made that mistake and mounted under bed at the rear, it gets very warm when driving down the road, batteries and such dont like it that warm.
I'm planning to put my battery bank in the storage compartment that is on the curb side, just forward of the rear duallies.



I originally was going to put them towards the rear of that compartment, but now I'm thinking I should orient them towards the front of that compartment.

I guess I should warm the engine up good then check the temps in that compartment before deciding.

Thanks for the heads up Swinada!

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Old 07-22-2009, 12:27 PM   #33
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Please also remember that batteries when charging give off fairly copious amounts of Hydrogen gas. Proper ventilation is a must given the fact that Hydrogen is flammable and explosive in relatively low concentrations. This normally isn't much of a problem with regular battery mounting boxes because the number of batteries is low (1-2) and most of the charging is done while the vehicle is in motion (i.e. producing some air movement for ventilation). However, Solar installations normally have a larger battery bank (3-4 or more) and most of the charge is (or can be) directed to the batteries while the vehicle is motionless. No breeze + heavy charging = Hydrogen concentration. Not trying to scare anyone, just a reminder to be safe in design and use of any battery system.
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Old 07-22-2009, 01:06 PM   #34
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Please also remember that batteries when charging give off fairly copious amounts of Hydrogen gas. Proper ventilation is a must given the fact that Hydrogen is flammable and explosive in relatively low concentrations. This normally isn't much of a problem with regular battery mounting boxes because the number of batteries is low (1-2) and most of the charging is done while the vehicle is in motion (i.e. producing some air movement for ventilation). However, Solar installations normally have a larger battery bank (3-4 or more) and most of the charge is (or can be) directed to the batteries while the vehicle is motionless. No breeze + heavy charging = Hydrogen concentration. Not trying to scare anyone, just a reminder to be safe in design and use of any battery system.
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What about the gel cells-optima & agm batteries? They are completely sealed if I understand correctly...This shouldn't be a problem having them indoors & do not need to be vented.
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We are looking at (2) new 90 watt panels along with a used Xantrex RS 3000 true sinewave inverter with LCD charger and regulator. Also, auto line and inverter transfer switch. It is a complete network system control. This system described is available for $750.00.
Where did you find it for 750? I was looking yesterday for a 160+ watt system - and was in it for that much in just panels w/o the invertor.

I'd love to be in at for the 750 mark, would make my day!
I can't tell you (I'd have to kill you)

I am still deciding if I want to buy this setup or not... I may buy it for just the panels (they are new Sharp panels) & then sell the rest of the components as the RS3000 is strictly for an RV & probably used worth $600-$700. Meaning it is meant to be hooked up to an AC shoreline or generator when the battery bank is depleating. I need something more geared for off the grid use & this would work but it is a bit extreme for our needs....The rest of the equipment is used (2 yrs old) & was used for backup power at a house that was on the grid.

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Ah the golden plan (I Can't Wait!)... We are moving at the end of Sept if all goes as planned to New Mexico to a rural & remote property we just bought in Datil NM. It is 10 acres of heavily treed Pinion Pines & Juniper trees with some open areas & the back of the property has a nice rise to an opening at the top of the hill with 70 mile views of the mountains. It is a dream my wife & I have had for a while & we will be living in the small 400 sqft cabin on the property. The cabin is off the grid & ready to move into. It has solar power, propane fridge, propane heat, propane stove & all the minimal immenities. We need to build a composting toilet & do the finishing touches on the cabin when we get there. I need to setup the bus to also have off the grid power to run our business office - laptop & printer & not much else which will be inside the bus. We are totally changing our lifestyle & are so ready for it! Thats it in a nutshell!!
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What about the gel cells-optima & agm batteries? They are completely sealed if I understand correctly...This shouldn't be a problem having them indoors & do not need to be vented.
You are 100% correct about the gel cell and a few other types of batteries. With no H2 being released, there is no worry about concentration or buildup. I was just making a general statement about normal batteries. This is also one reason why correctly done battery banks will sometimes cost more, because of the advanced battery tech involved. You normally get what you pay for.
You've done your homework, and I certainly hope it serves you well for many years. I love Solar (or anything else) with no moving parts, that much more reliable.
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Ah the golden plan (I Can't Wait!)... We are moving at the end of Sept if all goes as planned to New Mexico to a rural & remote property we just bought in Datil NM. It is 10 acres of heavily treed Pinion Pines & Juniper trees with some open areas & the back of the property has a nice rise to an opening at the top of the hill with 70 mile views of the mountains. It is a dream my wife & I have had for a while & we will be living in the small 400 sqft cabin on the property. The cabin is off the grid & ready to move into. It has solar power, propane fridge, propane heat, propane stove & all the minimal immenities. We need to build a composting toilet & do the finishing touches on the cabin when we get there. I need to setup the bus to also have off the grid power to run our business office - laptop & printer & not much else which will be inside the bus. We are totally changing our lifestyle & are so ready for it! Thats it in a nutshell!!
That sounds like a sweet deal. I like that area of NM.
If needed...do you have internet all sorted?

Post up some pics when you get a chance.
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That sounds like a sweet deal. I like that area of NM.
If needed...do you have internet all sorted?

Post up some pics when you get a chance.
I will post some photos of the property & cabin tonight after I hopefully win some solar power equipment! I checked out Silver City, you still there? That is a little hike from Datil but we would love to have your company if you ever get up our way - stay a while!
That & I really like yer bus & would like to see it in person... You have done some beautiful work on it & it looks like a quality job!

We are looking at satellite with Wild Blue as we don't know of many other options but haven't commited... You have a dish in some of your photos - is that internet or TV? If internet hows it work being mobile & is the service good & reliable? We are up for suggestions, but cost is always an issue!
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Sweet plan. We aren't too far off from our ambitions either we want to live in a small cabin off grid too! Bus will serve as temp living quarters while we build the cabin. We plan on traveling for a couple of years first though - searching the country for a spot we want to spend the rest of our days.

Man I love skoolies.
I love the plan... my wife has spent some time in NM but get this... I have never been there & we bought a property without visiting first (saw many vids & hundreds of photos)! Friends & family think we are a bit nuts but hey, it was ridiculously CHEAP & it was paid for with cash, so NO MORTGAGE!!! We are first time homeowners also to top it off...
You are going to have to come visit NM when you & family get out on the road, by then we will be settled in & can show you around!!

There is nothing comparable to a personally customized bus! Everyone is different & we are all addicted to skoolies (& cities)!
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