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Old 01-16-2017, 07:11 PM   #1
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Black water plumbing?

Can I drop out the black tank through a gate valve, into a 90 down, 10" of pipe then either a 90 out the side or hook onto the vertical drop? Due to space I am having to put the black tank inside but do not want to hook up above floor level to dump and also want to plumb the grey into the same dump point, of which I cant do if the black has to go straight out of the tank.
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Old 01-16-2017, 08:53 PM   #2
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Some basic pics/sketches of your idea would help?
From what you explained it won't work cause once the down/drop pipe collects enough solids it won't allow any water to get into the tank.
Don't forget that your tank needs to be vented for air out as you flush and air in as you drain.
You can find and or order flatter, wider tanks to fit just about anything.
I will have to find it again but at one point I had contact with a plastic tank company that would send me a sketch sheet to draw exactly what I wanted/needed and the cost was almost the same as buying a generic new tank. If your interested
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Old 01-16-2017, 10:47 PM   #3
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Poo needs to drop straight into the black tank or it "hangs" where it causes problems.
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Old 01-17-2017, 06:15 AM   #4
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Sorry boys I was not clear, I want to set the stool directly on top of the tank, its the drain or dump I want to have an elbow in. Due to bed arraignments and bus length about the only place I can set the toilet makes me put the BW tank inside above the floor. With the axle, A/C, fuel, exhaust and battery box I'm just out of room underneath. With a left hand BW tank I could go straight out the side of the bus but that's a hole and a door in the living quarters I rather not have, it also placed the outlet about waist high. I would prefer to go from the BW tank drain valve to a 90 elbow down, then either put the dump hose directly on that vertical nipple or place another 90 on it to point it out the side as they normally are. Either of these arraignments would allow me to also tie in the GW tank to flush the dump hose of any remaining Klingons.
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With that 90, it would help if you ran your gray water into the black tank via a cut off valve. That way you can dump the black, then "flush" the black tank and lines by running the gray through it. A lot of folks set their systems up that way.
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Old 01-17-2017, 12:01 PM   #6
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Jolly Roger, I would like to have that number of your contact for the tank.
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moving the poo horizontally can be tough. they make 90 degree sweeps which might help instead of just an elbow.

if i could make a change about my own black plumbing, i would have a vertical dump. the horizontal dump works, but its lazy after the initial rush. i have to use a cleanout adapter to help the tank drain completely.
if it were a vertical dump, i wouldnt be able to see that there still solids in there.

you could consider an transfer tank and pump. just attach a macerator pump to the outlet of the black tank and let it transfer the macerated waste to a more accessible dump tank.

or just have 2 separate dump valves. however keeps the fewest turns for the poo.
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Jolly Roger, I would like to have that number of your contact for the tank.
Just found my old notes.
Plastic-mart.com 866-310-2556
Plastic tanks.com custom tank design 800-826-5727
Or greyco products 519-923-0222. Look at marine holding tanks I know greyco products through my work and you can get anything you can afford.

I think plastic mart is the ones I actually talked to and seamed to be the best price for 3 custom tanks at the time but in the middle of sketching up what I wanted I ran into an old friend that gave me free reign of an old Minnie Winnie (winnebegao) before his bulldozer pushed it deep into the woods.
I got the tanks, the control panel and really wanted the propane genny but every rubber tube on it was gone and every hole there was full of dirt dobber nest so lack of money and time kinda scared me on that and I still kick myself in the butt but anyway.
Hope those help and good luck.
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Just found my old notes.
Plastic-mart.com 866-310-2556
Plastic tanks.com custom tank design 800-826-5727
Or greyco products 519-923-0222. Look at marine holding tanks I know greyco products through my work and you can get anything you can afford.

I think plastic mart is the ones I actually talked to and seamed to be the best price for 3 custom tanks at the time but in the middle of sketching up what I wanted I ran into an old friend that gave me free reign of an old Minnie Winnie (winnebegao) before his bulldozer pushed it deep into the woods.
I got the tanks, the control panel and really wanted the propane genny but every rubber tube on it was gone and every hole there was full of dirt dobber nest so lack of money and time kinda scared me on that and I still kick myself in the butt but anyway.
Hope those help and good luck.
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Old 01-18-2017, 05:50 AM   #10
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With that 90, it would help if you ran your gray water into the black tank via a cut off valve. That way you can dump the black, then "flush" the black tank and lines by running the gray through it. A lot of folks set their systems up that way.
Sorry,no can do. Greybtank will be 10" below black tank. I could pump it but that's a task for another day. Thanks all for the input.
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