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01-06-2017, 09:38 AM
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#161
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Kansas
Posts: 492
Year: 2000
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: Your mom +1
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Originally Posted by Azuleslight
go to menards or home depot if your still in a warmer state and buy coconut core bricks they are like 2 dollars and when given 4 qts of water expand to 8 qts of coconut core.
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And you can grow... um... tomatoes (yeah, tomatoes, that's the ticket) in whatever coir you have left over and gain the benefits of growing hydroponically in a soil like substrate...
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01-06-2017, 12:49 PM
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#163
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
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Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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So- can we start calling these something other than "composting". Seems like they're much more akin to a litterbox than a composting bin. Turds would have to chill in there in perfect conditions for a LONG time to ever make any actual compost.
How about "littertoilets". Or maybe hyphenate it?
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01-06-2017, 12:54 PM
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#164
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Greater Houston, Tx.
Posts: 589
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The term "Drop Box" come to mind. Walnut Grove seems somewhat fitting too.
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01-06-2017, 01:13 PM
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#165
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: SE Florida
Posts: 1,108
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 65 pax
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Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
So- can we start calling these something other than "composting". Seems like they're much more akin to a litterbox than a composting bin. Turds would have to chill in there in perfect conditions for a LONG time to ever make any actual compost.
How about "littertoilets". Or maybe hyphenate it?
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I agree, none of them are "composting" toilets, per se. Even the $1000 ones. They will tell you that it takes about 12 months to have usable composted soil.
I don't consider my set up as a composting toilet, although the ingredients of the walnut litter are 100% compostable. I put it in this thread, because other people were talking about the bucket-toilet set ups and I thought this was the best place With my current set up, I can't see myself spending $1K for a toilet system, mine is working just fine! LOL I just need to build a box so I can attach a regular seat for my tush
Sandi
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01-06-2017, 01:19 PM
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#166
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
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Engine: Cat 3126
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Originally Posted by WanderWoman
I agree, none of them are "composting" toilets, per se. Even the $1000 ones. They will tell you that it takes about 12 months to have usable composted soil.
I don't consider my set up as a composting toilet, although the ingredients of the walnut litter are 100% compostable. I put it in this thread, because other people were talking about the bucket-toilet set ups and I thought this was the best place With my current set up, I can't see myself spending $1K for a toilet system, mine is working just fine! LOL I just need to build a box so I can attach a regular seat for my tush
Sandi
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totally agreed. A couple we know stealth camp all around the country in a plain cargo van with a camper interior they fashioned. They use a bucket with litter. Works fine for their purposes.
I see zero point in spending $1000 for a fancy litterbox with a clever name.
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01-06-2017, 01:21 PM
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#167
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Greater Houston, Tx.
Posts: 589
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WW I totally agree with you. I say use a system that works for you, and that you feel comfortable with. I'm sure that after my wife sees more + comments about the "bucket" system she will be fine with it.
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01-06-2017, 02:03 PM
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#168
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Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Hillsboro Oregon
Posts: 245
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I dont think anyone here on this site came up with the name "composting toilet". It was a good marketing name by someone and it has become synonymous with most all non water flush toilets. It is a catch all word.
Kinda like "school bus". There is no school on the bus, it is just a yellow bus that takes kids to school and home again. So it should be a school bus in the morning and a home bus in the afternoon?
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01-06-2017, 02:50 PM
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#169
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: SE Florida
Posts: 1,108
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Coachwork: International
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Originally Posted by Deezl Smoke
I dont think anyone here on this site came up with the name "composting toilet". It was a good marketing name by someone and it has become synonymous with most all non water flush toilets. It is a catch all word.
Kinda like "school bus". There is no school on the bus, it is just a yellow bus that takes kids to school and home again. So it should be a school bus in the morning and a home bus in the afternoon?
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LOL... that makes TOTAL SENSE!
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01-06-2017, 02:54 PM
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#170
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: SE Florida
Posts: 1,108
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1olfart
WW I totally agree with you. I say use a system that works for you, and that you feel comfortable with. I'm sure that after my wife sees more + comments about the "bucket" system she will be fine with it.
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1olfart... love your "dropbox" name!
I'm sure once she gets use to it, it'll be fine. It took me a couple of weeks to wrap my mind around it and now it's like part of my life.
Now to build a box!
Sandi
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01-06-2017, 03:21 PM
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#171
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Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 157
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I believe that they are referred to as a "Dry Toilet" meaning that there is no water involved like a house toilet.
Composting toilet is a term used to sell them to Environmentalists. End of the day, its a dry toilet and what you do with the waste is what makes it compost or not.
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01-06-2017, 05:44 PM
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#172
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
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Dry toilet is a much better way of putting it.
I just think its silly to keep the "composting" part in the conversation as its just a fairy tale.
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01-06-2017, 05:47 PM
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#173
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Skoolie
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: chicago, il
Posts: 220
Year: 2003
Chassis: IC CE
Engine: T444
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not for me lol, if you keep your urine out of the mix it actually does compost.
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01-06-2017, 05:48 PM
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#174
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
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Originally Posted by Azuleslight
not for me lol, if you keep your urine out of the mix it actually does compost.
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You leave it in there for upwards of a YEAR?
whoa! kudos to you... I'd fill it too fast for it to ever actually even begin to compost.
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01-06-2017, 05:58 PM
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#175
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
totally agreed. A couple we know stealth camp all around the country in a plain cargo van with a camper interior they fashioned. They use a bucket with litter. Works fine for their purposes.
I see zero point in spending $1000 for a fancy litterbox with a clever name.
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I also agree to some extent.
I think that my $100 toilet with a comfy seat and urine diverter is WAY better than my $19 toilet that was a lousy seat clipped on top of a bucket.
I think that the Air-Head and similar are notably nicer than my $100 toilet. I would be happy to spend $150 or even $200 on one.
$1000?? Probably not.....
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01-06-2017, 07:42 PM
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#176
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Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Hillsboro Oregon
Posts: 245
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Mine being a tool box generally used for construction job tools, has been dubbed by my friends as the "job box".
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01-06-2017, 07:55 PM
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#177
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Almost There
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Tenino, Wa (20 mi SE of Olympia)
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Now that's what I call making a necessity fun!
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01-06-2017, 08:56 PM
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#178
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Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Southeast British Columbia
Posts: 106
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466E
Rated Cap: 72
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All great info. But for myself I still like my tanks. 40 gallon black and 40 gallon gray. Draining is not messy if you do it right. My wife and I can go over 2 weeks between dumping the tanks.
I pull up to sanistation, attach the drain hose, pull the black tank and drain. When that is done, I pull the gray tank, this flushes out the hose. When done properly there is no smell and the outside of the hose doesn't even get wet.
Of course while all of this is going on I am refilling my fresh tanks.
My wife is dumping all the garbage in the bins.
It really is a painless process and relatively clean when done right.
Just my 2cents
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01-06-2017, 10:05 PM
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#179
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
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Quote:
Originally Posted by freakn
All great info. But for myself I still like my tanks. 40 gallon black and 40 gallon gray. Draining is not messy if you do it right. My wife and I can go over 2 weeks between dumping the tanks.
I pull up to sanistation, attach the drain hose, pull the black tank and drain. When that is done, I pull the gray tank, this flushes out the hose. When done properly there is no smell and the outside of the hose doesn't even get wet.
Of course while all of this is going on I am refilling my fresh tanks.
My wife is dumping all the garbage in the bins.
It really is a painless process and relatively clean when done right.
Just my 2cents
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Al Bundy and I agree !!!
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01-06-2017, 10:07 PM
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#180
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
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Quote:
Originally Posted by freakn
All great info. But for myself I still like my tanks. 40 gallon black and 40 gallon gray. Draining is not messy if you do it right. My wife and I can go over 2 weeks between dumping the tanks.
I pull up to sanistation, attach the drain hose, pull the black tank and drain. When that is done, I pull the gray tank, this flushes out the hose. When done properly there is no smell and the outside of the hose doesn't even get wet.
Of course while all of this is going on I am refilling my fresh tanks.
My wife is dumping all the garbage in the bins.
It really is a painless process and relatively clean when done right.
Just my 2cents
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And after the black goes to the water plant the liquids and solids are separated and the solids are sold once they've composted. So technically a regular toilet is pretty much as efficient at composting as a dry toilet is.
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