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Old 01-09-2019, 04:30 PM   #1
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Hey Shorties: How Do You Carry Your Water?

I'm interested in how/where/in what people with short buses carry water, and how much they carry. Where are your tanks? If you're full-time in a cold climate, I'm assuming storing water outside the bus is not going to work, right? I imagine it will freeze.

I had a plan but it's all a mess because I underestimated the weight of water and how much space it takes up. I found a soft water "bladder" that, because it's soft, could more flexibly fit in a few different places, but the expensive ones seem ridiculous for what's essentially a bag, and the cheap ones don't come with nozzles and are not rated for potable. So I'm just exploring what options others have tried. I'm here to learn from your success and failures!
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Old 01-09-2019, 04:49 PM   #2
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don't have it yet, but

the plan in my short bus is 20 gallon maximum. I am think about those plastic water bottle you can fill at the grocery stores are are like ten gallons or so. Have three, one inside, two out side on a rear bumper rack.

the ones on the rear bumper will also act like a crash energy absorbers. I think the plastic bottles can deal with expansion during freezing, and if you are low, you can bring one in to heat.... but that would be like bringing in a giant ice cube to heat up and that would be even more you have to heat up.......hmmm another thing to ponder.

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Old 01-09-2019, 04:53 PM   #3
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Mine will be indoors. 30 gallons. Keeps it from getting too hot or freezing.
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the plan in my short bus is 20 gallon maximum. I am think about those plastic water bottle you can fill at the grocery stores are are like ten gallons or so. Have three, one inside, two out side on a rear bumper rack.

the ones on the rear bumper will also act like a crash energy absorbers. I think the plastic bottles can deal with expansion during freezing, and if you are low, you can bring one in to heat.... but that would be like bringing in a giant ice cube to heat up and that would be even more you have to heat up.......hmmm another thing to ponder.

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Hmmm..... Are you sure that they are not 5 gallons. a 10 gallon jug of water weighs 80lbs..... A bit unwieldy to carry out of the store.... 5 gallons is your standard water cooler bottle.
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Indoor tank=40g. Getting ready for SP3 so I filled our 5g store bottle in case. We are staying 4 or 5 nights but water is easy in town. Shower every other day 2 ppl. Use about 10g per day.
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Old 01-09-2019, 05:08 PM   #6
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Ours is a 35 gallon tank midshipped under the bed.
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Old 01-09-2019, 08:21 PM   #7
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My "shortie" (22') has two, 30 gal fresh water tanks under the bed. a 40gal grey tank under the stove/oven and 27 gal black tank under the body at the rear of the bus. All of my water lines are inside the bus as is the on demand hot water heater. I'm rethinking things now after a near mishap over the Christmas holidays while we were camped near Death Valley. I'd figured I'd be OK with the water inside the bus staying above freezing but with a night down to 24 degrees F, and no heat in the bus, (wifey is afraid of propane heat) the water pipes showed 32.1 degrees in spite of being in the bus. Fortunately, nothing froze solid but I am looking at heat strips for the tanks and water lines. I wouldn't count on the plastic tanks saving you from freeze expansion.
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My "shortie" (22') has two, 30 gal fresh water tanks under the bed. a 40gal grey tank under the stove/oven and 27 gal black tank under the body at the rear of the bus. All of my water lines are inside the bus as is the on demand hot water heater. [/QUOTE]

How big are these tanks? You bus is only 2 feet longer than mine, and unless it's a whole lot wider it's hard to picture how you fit 60 gallons under your bed, let alone the 40 gallon grey.

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I'm rethinking things now after a near mishap over the Christmas holidays while we were camped near Death Valley. I'd figured I'd be OK with the water inside the bus staying above freezing but with a night down to 24 degrees F, and no heat in the bus, (wifey is afraid of propane heat) the water pipes showed 32.1 degrees in spite of being in the bus. Fortunately, nothing froze solid but I am looking at heat strips for the tanks and water lines. I wouldn't count on the plastic tanks saving you from freeze expansion.
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Check out our diesel heater thread, if you're going to do that cold camping thing maybe wifey would be cool with one of these. It vents outside, so no fumes.

http://www.skoolie.net/forums/f51/th...ead-25109.html
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My "shortie" (22') has two, 30 gal fresh water tanks under the bed. a 40gal grey tank under the stove/oven and 27 gal black tank under the body at the rear of the bus. All of my water lines are inside the bus as is the on demand hot water heater. I'm rethinking things now after a near mishap over the Christmas holidays while we were camped near Death Valley. I'd figured I'd be OK with the water inside the bus staying above freezing but with a night down to 24 degrees F, and no heat in the bus, (wifey is afraid of propane heat) the water pipes showed 32.1 degrees in spite of being in the bus. Fortunately, nothing froze solid but I am looking at heat strips for the tanks and water lines. I wouldn't count on the plastic tanks saving you from freeze expansion.
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Your post got me curious so I decided to do a test. I filled a 5 gal bucket with room temp water, covered it and set it out on the patio over night. Our low temp last night was 18 degrees and this morning there's only 1/8" of ice on the surface of the water. I'm going to leave the bucket outside for a few more days and see what happens. I'm particularly curious what happens to the bucket after the water freezes solid.

One caveat is that this is Michigan water which may be more resistant to freezing.


I could easily fit another 35 gal tank under our bed.
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Your post got me curious so I decided to do a test. I filled a 5 gal bucket with room temp water, covered it and set it out on the patio over night. Our low temp last night was 18 degrees and this morning there's only 1/8" of ice on the surface of the water. I'm going to leave the bucket outside for a few more days and see what happens. I'm particularly curious what happens to the bucket after the water freezes solid.

One caveat is that this is Michigan water which may be more resistant to freezing.
I have a plastic bucket in my driveway full of water that's frozen solid. It's been out there for like a month. So far the bucket looks pretty normal.

LOL that Michigan water is special, I'm sure!
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