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05-02-2016, 09:53 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Spring Valley AZ
Posts: 1,343
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 2 elderly children, 1 cat
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How not to plumb
This is a pic from someone who used to post here but has since moved on. I post this for constructive reasons. This person listens to no one when offered advice or even when they would ask for help.
This is what you wind up with.
Under the bus is a plastic barrel and the waste line enters the barrel at the bottom...And there's no obvious vent.
We know how well that will work....I hope!
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Don, Mary and Spooky the cat.
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05-02-2016, 10:13 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: MNT CITY TN
Posts: 5,158
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interesting to say the least
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05-02-2016, 10:50 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Salt Lake City Utah
Posts: 1,635
Year: 2000
Chassis: Blue Bird
Engine: ISC 8.3
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Well....... constructively speaking: the vinyl tube section could provide good vibration resistance. And it does have a P trap of sorts.
Entering the waste tank at the bottom isn't inherently bad I suppose. Probably the biggest drawbacks to the approach shown are that there's no vent above the P trap level, so water flowing down the pipe will siphon the contents out of the trap and render it ineffective. Also there's the obvious problem of needing a way to vent air out of the tank as water flows in. While the 3/4" PVC and 1/2" vinyl tube certainly can carry water, the drain rate should be expected to be slow.
Maybe backups at the sink are a way of compelling water consumers to moderate their usage..?
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05-02-2016, 10:58 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 447
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Ward
Chassis: International
Engine: Navistar 5.9 Diesel
Rated Cap: A butt-load...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 2kool4skool
This is a pic from someone who used to post here but has since moved on. I post this for constructive reasons. This person listens to no one when offered advice or even when they would ask for help.
This is what you wind up with.
Under the bus is a plastic barrel and the waste line enters the barrel at the bottom...And there's no obvious vent.
We know how well that will work....I hope!
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Oh it will work wonderfully once the bus fills up with grey water! insta-pool!
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05-02-2016, 11:10 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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I'm not understanding why they built their own P-trap from numerous fittings, and secondly why it would be necessary to visually see the waste water flowing. I don't like to see the hair clogs.
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05-02-2016, 11:31 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: The Valley - Arizona
Posts: 644
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freight-shaker (Freightliner)
Engine: Cat 3126b 250 HP
Rated Cap: Only 1 seat
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should have put the sink underneath and the holding tank on top with a pump installed...............
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05-02-2016, 11:36 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Cuyahoga Falls Ohio
Posts: 592
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Startrans
Chassis: Ford e-350 single wheel
Engine: 5.4 litre
Rated Cap: 12
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Oh ya, I remember that guy.. You can't fix stupid.
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05-02-2016, 11:43 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 447
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Ward
Chassis: International
Engine: Navistar 5.9 Diesel
Rated Cap: A butt-load...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Docsgsxr
should have put the sink underneath and the holding tank on top with a pump installed...............
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Dear Sir,
I expect reimbursement for 1 laptop, 1 dock, 1 24" lcd, 1 keyboard from spitting monster all over them after reading your post.
You know that cr@p is gonna eat through the plastic in no time.
...and an apologie to my coworkers for unwarranted showers (eeewwww....!)
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05-02-2016, 11:45 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: The Valley - Arizona
Posts: 644
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freight-shaker (Freightliner)
Engine: Cat 3126b 250 HP
Rated Cap: Only 1 seat
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skoolie_n00bie
Dear Sir,
I expect reimbursement for 1 laptop, 1 dock, 1 24" lcd, 1 keyboard from spitting monster all over them after reading your post.
You know that cr@p is gonna eat through the plastic in no time.
...and an apologie to my coworkers for unwarranted showers (eeewwww....!)
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Can I just reimburse the Monster, and you put an insurance claim against the rest????
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05-02-2016, 11:49 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vacaville, Ca
Posts: 1,634
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Crown / Pusher
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 2kool4skool
This is a pic from someone who used to post here but has since moved on. I post this for constructive reasons. This person listens to no one when offered advice or even when they would ask for help.
This is what you wind up with.
Under the bus is a plastic barrel and the waste line enters the barrel at the bottom...And there's no obvious vent.
We know how well that will work....I hope!
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Ok this was built as a joke right??
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05-02-2016, 11:58 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Spring Valley AZ
Posts: 1,343
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 2 elderly children, 1 cat
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stu & Filo. T
Ok this was built as a joke right??
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No...This person takes everything it builds very seriously.
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Don, Mary and Spooky the cat.
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05-02-2016, 12:43 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Colorado
Posts: 2,361
Year: 1993
Coachwork: bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins, Allison AT1545
Rated Cap: 2
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dam!, he sure needs to put some hose clamps on that vinyl. cant slip anything past this crowd.
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05-02-2016, 02:40 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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I'm agoin to do that with a tolet.
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05-02-2016, 03:26 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Maryland / Boulder
Posts: 347
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas Built
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
Engine: CAT 3126b Rotella-Chugger
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 2kool4skool
This is a pic from someone who used to post here but has since moved on. I post this for constructive reasons. This person listens to no one when offered advice or even when they would ask for help.
This is what you wind up with.
Under the bus is a plastic barrel and the waste line enters the barrel at the bottom...And there's no obvious vent.
We know how well that will work....I hope!
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LOL, this isn't far off from what I did haha. Due to the way my tanks are mounted, the water drains into the tanks at the bottom, cause there wasn't room for the pipes to enter at the top. I used flexible pool vacuum hose for part of the drain with a waterless P trap, but not reduced to that stupid tiny size haha. As a result of the water draining at the bottom of the tank, I had to put in an extra set of vents in the plumbing for it to flow correctly. Definitely not the best design, but it DOES work. Just not the way its done here.
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05-02-2016, 04:28 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Farmington Hills, Mi (Detroit area)
Posts: 1,968
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Eldorado Aerotech 24'
Chassis: Ford E-450 Cutaway Bus
Engine: 7.3L Powerstroke
Rated Cap: 19
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Well, it WILL work but the cobbled up trap will freeze and split come winter and it will be interesting to see what those chains do to his grey tank. Worst part is that it would have been cheaper to do it right. This guy has all kinds of goofy ideas, one of which is to build a "battery bank" out of rechargeable AA cells and charge it with a 5 watt solar panel. Another is to use the sink as a urinal. And the biggest irony of all is he calls the previous owners "hillbillies."
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05-02-2016, 04:29 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Maryland / Boulder
Posts: 347
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas Built
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
Engine: CAT 3126b Rotella-Chugger
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by roach711
Well, it WILL work but the cobbled up trap will freeze and split come winter and it will be interesting to see what those chains do to his grey tank. This guy has all kinds of goofy ideas, one of which is to build a "battery bank" out of rechargeable AA cells and charge it with a 5 watt solar panel. Another is to use the sink as a urinal. And the biggest irony of all is he calls the previous owners "hillbillies."
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You should link this thread. haha
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05-02-2016, 04:33 PM
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#17
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: MB
Posts: 279
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Tomas
Chassis: International
Engine: T444e
Rated Cap: 54
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Damn, I lost his website name... look at all the fun I missed.
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On two bald tires and an oversize load..."
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05-02-2016, 04:36 PM
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#18
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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I'll tell you right now, even hillbillies know people that they consider to be hillbillys. Can you imagine?
Ma, looks lik dey puts the outhouse in da truck. Wonder who dug dat ho?
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05-02-2016, 04:39 PM
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#19
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Farmington Hills, Mi (Detroit area)
Posts: 1,968
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Eldorado Aerotech 24'
Chassis: Ford E-450 Cutaway Bus
Engine: 7.3L Powerstroke
Rated Cap: 19
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Here's the link:
My Portable Home
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05-02-2016, 04:40 PM
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#20
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 2kool4skool
No...This person takes everything it builds very seriously.
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I like the nonsexual generic identification.
I still can't figure out why this "it" needed a visual pipe in his drain.
That Rain-or-Shine glue definitely comes apart in frozen weather. Use primer and glue.
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