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04-15-2007, 09:09 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2007
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plumbing question
I've never been a plumber before, unless you count snakin' a drain or plungin' a toilet. I have a few questions, and know ya'll are the experts.
1: 12 volt water pumps = do I need 1 for the sink, and another for shower? What about the toilet. I have a new Thetford with a foot flush.
2: I only have two tanks so far, 38 gallon Black water, and a 40 gallon fresh water. Does anyone have any schematics from a bus plumbing system?
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04-15-2007, 11:01 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Saint James, MN
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If you have an RV type water pump it would be located right by the tank along with the pressure tank if you have one. If you are rigging something else up you will likely need a pressure switch and stuff, but you would still put it by the tank I would assume. There are on-demand type pumps that go at each faucet, but I think the general consensus on those is that they are convenient, but a dedicated water pump is a better route to go.
Hopefully some others will pipe in here because I can't reference my own water system all that much because I don't have a pump at all. My system uses a regulator and compressed air for silent water delivery at adjustable pressure. It works pretty well although I still need to tinker with it a little more. In the end it probably would have been cheaper or certainly no more expensive to go with a regular pump, but what the heck....I like to tinker.
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04-16-2007, 06:05 AM
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Almost There
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Western New York
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Depends on how much water you intend to use at one time. A house with a well has 1 well pump with a pressure switch to control the pump and pressure tank to maintain constant pressure in the system. This feeds the entire house. We all know what happens if you are showering and someone flushes a toilet, RV is the same way.
I do not think I would try and run dual pumps and pressure tanks off of one storage tank, but I would have a set for each storage tank to keep the systems separate.
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04-16-2007, 08:25 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Hamel, IL
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Deadhead, will this help you out?
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95 IH 72 passenger transit school bus w/ DT466 and 545 Allison.
79 IH Scout II/392 (0.030 over) Hamilton Injected/727/D300/Full size axles/36" Swampers/Lockers/OBA/38 gal Custom fuel tank, roll bar, tube doors.
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04-16-2007, 09:16 AM
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Almost There
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It certainly helps me out, I was wondering what black and grey water was...
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04-16-2007, 10:45 AM
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Bus Geek
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04-16-2007, 12:41 PM
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Bus Geek
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Black water is...er...the "brown" water from the toilet. Gray water is just the stuff from the sink and shower. Some people get really creative and recycle the grey water for tasks like flushing the toilet to maximize their capacity when boondocking.
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04-16-2007, 05:17 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2007
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oh yea, that helps a lot. Thanks friend. So I guess one water pump can work for the shower, sink, and toilet. I don't have a hot water heater yet or a grey water tank.
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04-16-2007, 05:45 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Rossland BC, Canada
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Yes one pump will work for the whole system. I have a Jabsco 1.9 lpm pump that is designed for marine use. It operates on pressure, so when the system is charged it turns off, when you turn on a tap away she goes. I chose a pump that puts out less power because I don't want to go through tonnes of water. It puts out enough for a good shower.
Here it is before being hooked up:
http://www.skoolie.net/gallery2/v/Skooli ... 0.JPG.html
ps: Why can't I get my images to paste? I've done it before and it seems my brain has stopped working. I have tried the insert image instructions and still no go, please help!
-Richard
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04-16-2007, 06:48 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2007
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kewl, I got a ShurFlo model 2088 for my water pump. It's 2.8 gallons per minute. Hopefully it wont waist too much water, and if it does, maybe I'll be able to throttle it somewhere.
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04-16-2007, 07:22 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Saint James, MN
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Aerators on the faucets and a low flow shoerhead could go a long ways. You can also get entropy valves or even just a regular 1/4 turn valve to throttle it down.
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04-16-2007, 09:22 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2006
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I've bought a whole host of items from an ebay seller that operates an ebay store called Tri-State Surplus... matter of fact I placed an order for 4 more items from that guy yestereday. He has water heaters, furnaces, he's usually got 6-9 pages of RV related stuff....
http://stores.ebay.com/TRI-STATE-SURPLUS
There is another seller that has tanks at a great price, so if you want to buy a gray tank he's got them for $45 plus shipping.... His name is similar, it's Tri-State Rock Your World....
http://stores.ebay.com/TRI-STATE-ROCK-YOUR-WORLD-STORE
The guy in the first link has the most stuff at the best prices though, he's a good seller too... He let me hold for a week on a shower pan while I shopped his site for more stuff, then packed it all into one box for combined shipping, saved me around $20 in shipping cost doing it that way...
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04-17-2007, 12:19 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Hamel, IL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by captainkf
Yes one pump will work for the whole system. I have a Jabsco 1.9 lpm pump that is designed for marine use. It operates on pressure, so when the system is charged it turns off, when you turn on a tap away she goes. I chose a pump that puts out less power because I don't want to go through tonnes of water. It puts out enough for a good shower.
Here it is before being hooked up:
http://www.skoolie.net/gallery2/v/Skooli ... 0.JPG.html
ps: Why can't I get my images to paste? I've done it before and it seems my brain has stopped working. I have tried the insert image instructions and still no go, please help!
-Richard
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Richard, are you trying to paste the webpage that the picture is being hosted on? or are you pasting the actual location of the pic.
If you try to link the webpage, nothing will happen. However, if you right click on the picture and copy the location, then paste it in after the img and before the /img, then it should show up. Which is what I did. Anything that goes into the img links, has to end in a jpg or gif extension.
HTH.
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95 IH 72 passenger transit school bus w/ DT466 and 545 Allison.
79 IH Scout II/392 (0.030 over) Hamilton Injected/727/D300/Full size axles/36" Swampers/Lockers/OBA/38 gal Custom fuel tank, roll bar, tube doors.
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04-18-2007, 03:09 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Rossland BC, Canada
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Thank you for the tutorial. I get it now .
-Richard
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