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Old 12-15-2010, 06:57 PM   #11
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Re: Shower pan

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How did everyone set up a shower. Im thinking of cutting a hole in the floor and sinking my shower about 5 inches so that I can stand up in it. Im 6'2" and the outside edge of the ceiling is maybe 5'10".
So I guess my real question is are taller people just settling for a short shower or is there an easy fix Im missing
I'm not as tall but I have a shower chair in the shower stall, so I sit down in there.
I remember the grandparents older class c rv and the toilet was in the shower stall. That is where i got the idea of just sitting in there, I didn't put my toilet in there though. I also use the shower stall to store small fold up tables and folding chairs.
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Old 01-18-2011, 03:14 PM   #12
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I've been looking for a shower pan too. This weekend I bought a 24"x24" laundry sink from Menards for $34. However, I had it placed in the bus yesterday and I am not convinced that is what I want to do now. So, I think I will take it back and look for a regular shower pan. I'm pretty sure a 24"x32" is the size I want, 32x32 I think is more space than I'm willing to give up. I found this one, http://www.jazzsales.com/index.php?rout ... uct_id=173 any thoughts? For $62 it seems to be the cheapest one I can find, not sure how much shipping would be yet. I haven't asked at the big retail stores, but I'm assuming 24x32 is pretty much a Rv size? Anybody know?

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Old 01-19-2011, 04:43 AM   #13
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Re: Shower pan

I've been thinking about this lately too. My plan is to make the steps leading up into the bus my shower area! I'm going to hang a curtain loop above the doorway so that the shower curtain hangs down in the stairwell, then I'll just have a drain in the bottom step to allow the water to run out the bottom...
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Old 01-19-2011, 11:00 AM   #14
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I've been thinking about this lately too. My plan is to make the steps leading up into the bus my shower area! I'm going to hang a curtain loop above the doorway so that the shower curtain hangs down in the stairwell, then I'll just have a drain in the bottom step to allow the water to run out the bottom...
That sounds like a very efficient use of space! Although, unless you plan on modifying the materials on the steps you may be inviting rust into an already rust-prone area.
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Old 01-19-2011, 01:26 PM   #15
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... I know that most RV-specific plumbing is not necessarily the finest quality, but what else can one use for the 3" dump valves?
PVC BALL VALVES!!!!! We have used them in weather that freezes.with no problems. I'm sure they will freeze up because the "ball" has a hole thru it and when turned off it traps some liquid inside the "hole". But our valves will be inside a heated box along with the tank. We've torn our gate valves apart on our Class C once for the black tank (rubber inside the valve messed up... yuk) and the grey valves twice, not counting when we replaced the valves. You can buy ball valves up to 4" (we have found them that large in ACE). They were very popular on the farms down in Cordele where they had the big overhead irrigation systems (water was pumped out of the river for the cotton and watermelons crops). We will plumb in a permanent black tank macerator (with a bypass) and drop all drains down to 1 1/2" to 2". We used to tent camp (7 years) and then in a pop-up (19 years) with a portipotti. When you are dumping a portipotti, you can't help but notice the "size" of stuff flowing out into wherever you are dumping it (we generally dumped into a toilet). This is why we believe we would have no problems using a 1 1/2" to 2" drain line/hose for our black tank.

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... I wonder what a psychoanalyst would make of this obsession with matters excremental that most of us converters spend way too much time thinking about?
Converters seem to spend less time on Black water matters (and Toilet Paper) than the RVer's do. RVer's devote a lot of time to what is the best TP to use, to use chems or not, how often to dump... and that's not taking into account the "grey water issues" and they do have issues with grey water dumping. They would "kill" Mr Blank for dumping grey water out his front door. Which I wouldn't advise anyway. Some states (mostly eastern) will kick you off the land (I'm talking public campgrounds and dispersed camping) and will add your name to a list to prohibit you from camping on their lands in your lifetime. Southeastern campgrounds/lands are used year rounds and used heavily. Unless in a severe drought (like the last one that lasted 7 years) you cannot dump grey water on the ground (shower water is grey water) and even in a drought you can only dribble it out onto a tree or shrub if the rangers say.

BTW, this is similar to our shower pan (we found ours - used - for $25 on Craigslist and we were offered one for free last week. I don't think anyone here lives anywhere near us so we turned it down). The 32X32 will be okay but our current shower (we have a 27X48 with EVERYTHING in it combo bathroom) is small and very tight on space... "Elbow" space is 27X36.. floor space is 27X14. David complains but he uses it (no choice). Before you decide on a very small shower, mock up the size and take a pretend shower. Don't forget to pretend to wash your feet and drop the soap while you are at it!

http://www.homedepot.com/Bath-Shower...atalogId=10053

This is what we will be using on the sinks and shower for the "P"traps. We had one in our pop up and we liked it (the big odd shaped part is the "p" trap... it's more like a air admittance valve but for water... we will try to find other uses for the rest of the fittings). I've seen them cheaper on amazon than what the link below has but you need to watch the shipping. Or you can buy a European one (cost $25 plus shipping) that uses the same technology but it's NEW and EUROPEAN so the RV lot like it. Me, I'm cheap and I've also had a lot of experience with the Camco one (19 years)

http://www.dyersonline.com/camco-fle...per-drain.html
http://www.amazon.com/Camco-37420-Fl.../dp/B000EDUTPO
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In our pop-up, the top 1/3 of the galley cabinet flipped over (hinged) and traveled up-side down. The side walls (solid) folded down to the interior while the roof/road cover was cranked down. So the drain lines had to be flexible. This drain set up is often marketed to van conversions. The drain line is just "bilge pump" hose like sold in Home Depot and Lowes in the "Cut by the foot" hoses in the plumbing section.

The ball valves: some are slip joint (glued in place) then there are the ones with threaded ends. There is also one kind with a compression type fitting. I rarely see the last kind but the first two are pretty common.
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Well, I bought the shower pan I linked to earier^^. Placed order on sat. and it showed up at my door about 1pm this afternoon. I think it will work perfect, just what I was looking for, 24"x32".
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Have you gotten a tape on that? Unless you stretched a picture, that looks like a 32X32. Optical illusion?

Make sure you put plenty of support under the floor and edges of the pan. Those things aren't the sturdiest in the world (I know, I have one). Flip the pan and use a can (or two) of Great Foam in the hollow parts, and in the support frame, especially at the corners to give it more support there.Then set it back down in the framed support. The curved corners will chip out if you drop something, like the hand-held shower head (yep, I did that).
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