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Old 12-05-2010, 09:15 PM   #1
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Re: Shower pan

I'm curious what other people have used as low-cost alternatives to a shower pan. So far all I've thought of is a stock tank of some sort. Basically a really large bucket with short walls. Something like this: http://www.tractorsupply.com/livestock/ ... al-2229846. I figure it could also be used as a small tub for washing/soaking or whatever. Anyone have other ideas?
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Old 12-05-2010, 11:24 PM   #2
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We acquired a shower pan from ALBQ CaigsList ($20) It's a standard 32X32 fiberglass one like what Lowes/Homedepot sells and in great shape. I watched Freecycle and CraigsList for several months before finding it. I know what I need and watch the listings pretty much daily. It's not luck. You can always post a WANTED ad as well. We couldn't put anything else in there for $20.
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Old 12-07-2010, 01:36 AM   #3
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Smitty I've been thinking along the same lines as you, except I will have a 30 gal grey water tank (plastic barrel). So I'll cut a drain hole in the bottom of the stock tank and through the floor. I'm thinking of getting a 6 gallon electric water heater I've seen for $200. So when we are plugged into shore, we can take showers and have enough water for several people. If we are boondocking I'll just heat up water on the propane stove and take a bucket bath with a 5 gallon bucket or run the generator if I really want to splurge. Not sure yet what I'm going to do about a water pump for when we are not plugged in to shore. I have an 115v AC clearwater pump, but it's not "on-demand" so I would have to throw a switch to activate it. I really don't feel like spending another $150 on a 12v on-demand pump though.
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I don't know how well this would work for adults... We used to camp in a pop-up that had no shower. When my kids were little, they didn't take showers. Or rather they played too much in the shower. So I used those big Rubbermaid totes as bathtubs for the kids. I washed them outside (summer in SC was hot) so dumping wasn't too much of a problem.
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Re: Shower pan

How about one of those plastic laundry tubs? They're about 2' x 2' and could be cut down a bit in the front for stepping in/out. The drain is already cast in.

If you have a bit more space, Home Depot has a nice 32x32 fiberglass pan for $89.00 (E.L. Mustee 3232m).
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Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I don't think I have space for a full shower pan, so that probably won't work... although I should measure one more time to be sure. Smitty, while I like the simplicity of your design, and originally was thinking along those lines, I've now had to accept the reality that with a family of 5 people and a wife who "needs" a "real" shower in the morning, I may have to go with a standard water heater and pump. I do plan to have a hand-held shower head with an on/off valve that can be passed through the window and have an auxillary mounting bracket outside so we can shower outside at the beach or whatever as an alternative to whatever indoor shower setup I settle on.
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Years ago I put a shower in a VERY small travel trailer(about 6x7) that worked very nice. Since I was always parked in a field somewhere and didn't go to any kine of park I drained directly onto the ground under the trailer. I purchased one of these http://www.tractorsupply.com/livesto...-small-6010003 and installed a small drain in the bottom with about 3 inches of pipe sticking down. Then cut a hole in floor of trailer so that drain in tub would stick down through hole(mine was pretty much in the middle of the only space big enough to stand up in) making a removable shower pan. I got some of the aluminum bendable curtain track and rollers for it from a surplus RV store( It's kind of like a mini I beam) I bent this into a spiral that ended in a small closet, with a full circle above the spot where the tub sat. This trailer did have a small sink with a very small water tank, but it did have a connection for outside water hose.I got a RV water tank about 4inx5ftx4ft and put it and a cheap RV waterpump in the bed of the pick up. With a RV water heater I got for free from a junked trailer I had a portable shower that worked really well.
I used a regular garden hose sprayer for the shower head. If you take a Navy 45 second shower this setup works well. I hope the explanation makes sense. Sorry no pictures this was about 30 years ago.
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If you have a big-box hardware store like Lowes, or Home Depot, look in the cement/masonry section for their flat motar mixing trays. The largest one I found that is suitable for a shower base is 2' x 3' and roughly 6" deep. Plenty of room to sit right up next to a wheel well. The curve of the 2' side even snugs up to the well real-purty-like.
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...DD: what are you plans for drains? Water proofing? I checked out shower drains and they all seem to be about two inches deep or so... I'll be going through the steel bus, 1" polyiso insulation, 5/8" plywood, pan of some sorts... hardibacker?? So probably closer to three inches? I'm worried about leaks and rotting around the shower...
I haven't looked into drains yet, but I'll raise the shower up if I have to accomodate drain dimensions. I plan to have a sitting shower anyway since I'm too tall to really stand comfortably for a shower in the bus. For water proofing walls I was planning to just use shower curtains to contain the shower because I have a window right there that I don't want to lose. But the more I think about it, the more I think I will also cover the walls with some sort of waterproof laminate and caulk the joints, just as a safety backup in case the curtain opens up during a shower or something like that. The flooring in that part of my bus will be waterproof anyway (pickup truck spray-in bed liner probably) since it is a utility area.
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... I'll have it drain directly into the 40gal grey water tank that is almost directly below it. No p trap... but will probably have a cap for the drain to keep the odors from coming back in.
PUT THE P-TRAP IN!!! you have no idea how bad a gray tank can smell. A cap will not keep the odors out.

If you are going to be in freezing weather, then you can do what we do. I keep a gallon or so of that pink RV anti-freeze and dump a bit into the shower drain after the last shower of the evening. I have yet to have ou tanks freeze. In TN/NC mountain winters, we ran some heat tape around the crappy RV gate valves to keep them thawed out (both black & gray) plus built a temp box out of foam board (it was thick... perhaps 2") with an old waterbed heater under the tanks. A similar box with a incandescent light bulb will also work to keep things thawed out. But if you are going to be in freezing weather, then you need to really set up for it right from the start. BTW, those crappy gate valves froze up on us in S GA (I75 Exit101) and we had to replace them when they thawed out. Had to drive almost up to Macon to buy new ones... crappy valves. We will NOT have those valves on our bus! As for the "draining into a bucket"... why don't you just set up with a bayonette connector and drain into a 4 WHEELED blue tote (I have a two wheeled 30 gal tote.... oh my back!)? Much easier to tote it to the dump station for those places that don't allow dumping on the ground (which you can't do in most Southeastern campgrounds, parks & forests).


Is this strange? I think of where I am based on Interstate exits and US/State highways. I'm not in Socorro... I'm at I25 Exit 149. I wonder what that says about me?
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