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Old 09-23-2016, 11:33 PM   #1
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Shower Pan/Base Installation & general shower discussion

Hi All,

So I am getting very close to my subfloor installation, and like the idea of not insulating beneath my shower to gain an extra inch of headspace (if that makes sense). I also like the idea of having the showerpan an inch lower on the off chance I make my bathroom a wet bath (which probably won't happen).

That said, I wanted to discuss shower pan/base installation. From what I understand residential shower pans generally have a concrete shower subfloor beneath the shower pan. (correct me if I'm wrong), is that something necessary in a Skoolie as well? Otherwise is there something else I should use as a filler between the showerpan and the floor?

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Old 09-24-2016, 12:28 AM   #2
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i chose to make my own shower pan. That might not be the conventional way but I'm pleased with it so thought I'd share.

I took flat 1/16" thick, 4 x 8' shower wall liner and cut it to be a flat pattern of the shower pan. Then I made a hot-wire table and heated the plastic where I wanted to bend it. In my case I bent three 4" flanges up to make a three-sided pan and glued it to the walls with shower wall adhesive. It came out great!

Before I installed it I cut about twenty five or so 20" wedges out of composite wood (plastic wood) and glued them side by side to the floor to lean the pan towards the drain. The drain side the pan sat directly on the metal floor of the bus. I'm sure it will be cold there for feet in winter but this is an RV (camper) and I don't really care. I wanted as much height as I could keep too.

The shower wall was made from the same material as the pan, overlapping as needed. The whole shower came out slick. I'm currently building a composting toilet to finish the bathroom.

My two cents! Best of luck!

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Old 09-24-2016, 10:11 AM   #3
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another thouyght I had was using a secondary HVAC drain pan.. they come in many smaller and unusual sizes not typically found in regular showers.. they are durable and yet plyable enough that bus flexing wont crack them when they are super cold.

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Old 09-24-2016, 07:53 PM   #4
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Thanks for your input guys! I bought myself a fiberglass 32"x34" shower pan off craigy's awhile ago so I am more just figuring out what I need to put between that and the floor. After reading through some more threads, I think I may go ahead and just put the pan above the subfloor anyway. Would linning the bottom with wood and spraying it with greatfoam be a reasonable base for it? I'm a little intimidated by using cement in the bus.

Rossfree: do you have any pictures of your drain pan you made?

Cadillac that's good food for thought. I'm assuming such a drain pan would be stainles steel? It would certainly provide a cool masculine aesthetic if you combined them with some corrugated metal walls or something.
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Great stuff foam would still have flex to it, even after cured
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Thanks for your input guys! I bought myself a fiberglass 32"x34" shower pan off craigy's awhile ago so I am more just figuring out what I need to put between that and the floor. After reading through some more threads, I think I may go ahead and just put the pan above the subfloor anyway. Would linning the bottom with wood and spraying it with greatfoam be a reasonable base for it? I'm a little intimidated by using cement in the bus.

Rossfree: do you have any pictures of your drain pan you made?

Cadillac that's good food for thought. I'm assuming such a drain pan would be stainles steel? It would certainly provide a cool masculine aesthetic if you combined them with some corrugated metal walls or something.
they are plastic (ABS).. though I think you may be able to get metal ones... metal ones are usually just galvanized .. these are secondary so they only see water when the unit malfunctions.

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The shower pan I have has a support grid that directs all the force to the floor. I set it on a layer of gray rubber shower pan liner sheet. It seems pretty solid.
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i set my shower like a home with cement dollups to support the pan. its worked out great.

if i ever had to redo it, i think the shower would pop out easily. but its held very solid since the install. im a big guy and don't want it flexing.



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Saving up for my Bootz Industries 30x60 porcelain over steel pan from Home Depot.... Bigger than I had planned for, but they don't make smaller... So, I'm making it work and should be getting it next payday
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if i ever had to redo it, i think the shower would pop out easily. but its held very solid since the install. im a big guy and don't want it flexing.
I bet a layer of moisture barrier plastic between the cement & pan would make removal easier... And just have 3 or 4 dollops in the corners un-sheeted... But I'd think it would pop up easily anyway.
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