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04-01-2019, 02:33 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Salt Lake City Utah
Posts: 1,635
Year: 2000
Chassis: Blue Bird
Engine: ISC 8.3
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There might be a technicality relating to total vehicle width -- I think the vehicle width regulations are often written with language like "widest part of the body, not including the side-view mirrors" and so a water heater protrusion would count. That might technically put you into "oversize load" category.
When driving through a narrow spot you might be watching clearance at the wheels, or the top or bottom of the wall, and forget that the water heater sticks out and end up striking it on something.
Hot combustion gases might cause some discoloration or damage to the bus paint above the heater.
When camping in cool weather, the heater hanging on the exterior of the bus would be prone to freezing much sooner than the rest of the water system would be.
It can be helpful to have the heater's flame and water flow knobs within reach while you're using the water; otherwise it can be difficult to get things balanced right. In the short time I've spent with an L5, this was most problematic when I wanted low flow and lukewarm water. Remember that the L5 doesn't automatically adjust the gas in proportion to the water flow. Tempering at the faucet by mixing with cold water could cause the hot water to get hotter, which causes me to turn the faucet a little more toward the cold side, which reduces the hot flow even further.. eventually the flow is so low the heater turns itself off. It really works best when the faucet is set to straight hot water, then the flow and temperature are adjusted with the knobs on the heater. Eventually a person can learn where to set the knobs "just right" ... or learn to not be so picky about the temperature!
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04-01-2019, 02:48 PM
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#42
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Gonvick MN
Posts: 339
Year: 1975
Chassis: Gillig
Engine: Cat 3208t/10 speed transmission
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04-01-2019, 03:05 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Gonvick MN
Posts: 339
Year: 1975
Chassis: Gillig
Engine: Cat 3208t/10 speed transmission
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Quote:
Originally Posted by trentet
I've had mine for about 7 years or so and used it in an easy up tent when I camped.. It's been amazing! I've had it running nearly 45 min nearly non stop and 5 campers were able to get a flawless hot shower in that time. I only recently installed it in my bus.
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Nice installation job!
We have used a similar water heater for about 10 years in our bus.
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04-01-2019, 03:11 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan N
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You can't, you can only edit it for a short period of time.
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04-01-2019, 03:18 PM
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#45
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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At 30" tall, I'm still looking on where to mount it. As well as all the electrics.
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04-01-2019, 07:56 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 421
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Just found the applicable reg for CA:
35111. No passenger vehicle shall be operated on any highway with any load extending beyond the line of the fenders on its left side or more than six inches beyond the line of the fenders on its right side.
Unfortunately for me, the kitchen is on the left side. Inside it is!
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04-01-2019, 07:57 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 421
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Should've read a little further--it sounds like it's okay.
35103. (a) A recreational vehicle may exceed the maximum width if the excess width is from an appurtenance that does not exceed six inches beyond either sidewall. (b) An appurtenance is an integral part of a vehicle and includes awnings, grab handles, lighting equipment, cameras, and vents. An appurtenance may not be used as a load carrying device.
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04-01-2019, 08:03 PM
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#48
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Still only gets you 6" on that side, is that gonna be enough?
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04-01-2019, 08:05 PM
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#49
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 421
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Just barely... the eccotemp L5 is 5.5" deep.
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04-01-2019, 08:07 PM
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#50
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheArgobus
Just barely... the eccotemp L5 is 5.5" deep.
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My L10 is 7"
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08-27-2019, 04:08 PM
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#51
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New Member
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 2
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How does the Echotemp L10 compare to the Excell?
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08-27-2019, 08:45 PM
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#52
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 3,231
Year: 1935
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 317 ci/tid / Isuzu
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More info please. Which Excell, gas or electric, type of installation?
Jack
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01-08-2020, 08:49 PM
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#54
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Lebanon, IN
Posts: 153
Year: 2003
Coachwork: AmTran
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466e/Allison 2000
Rated Cap: 65
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnbloem1974
I have the same one, Tango, and I LOVE it!! Works great, hot water all day! A little bit of heat out the top, but nothing crazy. Just make sure there's plenty of space around it...
John
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Is 1.6 gallons/minute really enough for a shower? don't typical residential showers supply 2+ gpm? Can you tell a difference?
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01-08-2020, 10:59 PM
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#55
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Montana/Texas
Posts: 682
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Crown by Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: 230 HP DT 466e/MT 643!
Rated Cap: 16
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The 1.6GPM is just the flow rate, similar to a low flow showerhead. The heater itself can produce plenty of hot water for showering. Really depends on the temp of the water coming in though... if its really cold out, you're getting a lukewarm shower...
John
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