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02-03-2019, 08:02 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Southern Maryland
Posts: 505
Year: 1986
Coachwork: Gillig
Chassis: Phantom
Engine: CAT 3208
Rated Cap: 87, says Gillig...
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4K Dwarf Wood Stove
With all the cold weather here lately in Southern Maryland I decided to TEMPORARILY install the Dwarf wood stove. The stove was purchased during a sale at tinywoodstove.com and had been sitting in my living room for months.
I pulled the rear emergency roof hatch off and cut a hole in it. Then I "secured" the silicone pipe boot gasket with copious amounts of Gorilla tape. I didn't even have to get on the roof...
Here is a pic from the inside. Yes I know the roof supporting bracket is not installed correctly; it's temporary.
I didn't even have to cut any of the flue pipes, they happen to make for a perfect interference fit.
Eventually the stove will be permanently mounted on a base up by the front door, but in the meantime, I hope it will provide some nice dry heat during this "brutal" MD winter...
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02-03-2019, 09:21 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Montana
Posts: 581
Year: 2000
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Nice! That should heat the bus up nicely. The heat rises quickly, you may want to put some sheet metal between the stove and the plastic emergency cover.
I have the Grizzly Cubicmini and it heats up the bus nicely.
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02-03-2019, 02:51 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Southern Maryland
Posts: 505
Year: 1986
Coachwork: Gillig
Chassis: Phantom
Engine: CAT 3208
Rated Cap: 87, says Gillig...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dog Rescuer
Nice! That should heat the bus up nicely. The heat rises quickly, you may want to put some sheet metal between the stove and the plastic emergency cover.
I have the Grizzly Cubicmini and it heats up the bus nicely.
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Good call on the plugging the hole in the emergency hatch. I stuck the interior trim plates up there and it made a huge difference.
So you have a Grizzly and I have a Dwarf...? I feel inadequate...
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02-04-2019, 01:42 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Barrie ON
Posts: 440
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 72
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Nice stove.....hope the cold isn't getting you too bad
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02-05-2019, 05:27 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Southern Maryland
Posts: 505
Year: 1986
Coachwork: Gillig
Chassis: Phantom
Engine: CAT 3208
Rated Cap: 87, says Gillig...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yukon Cornelius
Nice stove.....hope the cold isn't getting you too bad
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Full disclosure, it was around 65F degrees today here in the Washington DC area...
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02-07-2019, 07:33 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Barrie ON
Posts: 440
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComfortEagle
Full disclosure, it was around 65F degrees today here in the Washington DC area...
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The inside of my bus isn't even that warm.......
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02-07-2019, 11:06 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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I woke up to single digits this morning. Started my truck. As it warmed up I watched a crack travel up the middle of my windshield
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03-08-2019, 09:17 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: St. Charles County Missouri
Posts: 181
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird International
Chassis: 3800
Engine: T444e
Rated Cap: 35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dog Rescuer
Nice! That should heat the bus up nicely. The heat rises quickly, you may want to put some sheet metal between the stove and the plastic emergency cover.
I have the Grizzly Cubicmini and it heats up the bus nicely.
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What size bus does the grizzly heat up nicely?
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03-08-2019, 10:10 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorzie
What size bus does the grizzly heat up nicely?
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Rated to heat 200-400sf.
https://cubicminiwoodstoves.com/prod...ini-wood-stove
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03-10-2019, 02:56 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Montana
Posts: 581
Year: 2000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorzie
What size bus does the grizzly heat up nicely?
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My bus is extra-medium at 28’ bumper to bumper. It can get too warm - and i often have to crack a window. It would work in any size bus.
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03-10-2019, 03:56 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: St. Charles County Missouri
Posts: 181
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird International
Chassis: 3800
Engine: T444e
Rated Cap: 35
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I wish the small stoves could get a better burn time. But what can you do with such a small fire box. The dwarf 4k I hear can get up to 4 hours under idea conditions
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03-24-2019, 12:18 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 253
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Excuse the moron question..any chance of mounting the stove against the wall and running the exhaust along the wall a bit to recover more heat? maybe a bit like a rocket mask stove?
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03-24-2019, 09:14 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: St. Charles County Missouri
Posts: 181
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird International
Chassis: 3800
Engine: T444e
Rated Cap: 35
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That is not a bad question of you don't know the answer. The short answer yes it would let you recover more, but it is not the best setup. Whenever you put a bend or elbow in the flue you cause the effecienty to drop (the stove draw or draft). Just Google wood burning stove installation for a house they'll explain it a lot better. A straight flu will give you more draw however my brother-in-law Heats with wood and he said the fresh air intake made the biggest difference in his house. The fire has to pull air from somewhere to burn which means it's going to pull it in through all the windows and doors if you do not have a fresh air intake..
If anyone else has any other experience or knowledge please chime in. I do not currently heat with wood but I have been researching it for a couple of years for my house and have talked with people that heat their houses with wood stoves
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04-24-2019, 09:19 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Denver, co
Posts: 58
Year: 1999
Coachwork: International
Chassis: International (I think)
Engine: Dt466e w/ Allison md3060
Rated Cap: 84, 35000 gvwr
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We have a dwarf 4k and are in the process of installing solar panels, and maxxair deluxe fans. The way it currently lines up the maxxair is going to be in-between the solar panels, and the vent pipe of the stove. I am wondering what clearance the stove pipe needs once it is above the roof. We have the silicone boot and I expect the plastic maxxair vent to be within 6" from the outer diameter of the silicon boot. Will this be ok, to not melt the maxxair vent lid? I tried to look at the MFG website, but could not find anything.
Also because I know the question is coming... we are not going to run intake air when the stove is burning... lol.
Thanks for the help.
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04-26-2019, 05:28 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Indiana
Posts: 128
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Me
Chassis: 2001 IC
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 72
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We choose to use a stove that we wouldn't have to fill up every two hours. Our choice was a vogelzang 1200 sq foot wood stove. We build a small fire in it and it last about four hours heating the entire bus.
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04-26-2019, 05:41 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ciscokid
We choose to use a stove that we wouldn't have to fill up every two hours. Our choice was a vogelzang 1200 sq foot wood stove. We build a small fire in it and it last about four hours heating the entire bus.
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Ya, but you have to have the AC on for the first hour and a half. I have one very similar to that, decided against it for 3 reasons. Takes up too much valuable space, they are too efficient for a bus, and insurance could be a problem if you need it.
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04-26-2019, 05:53 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Indiana
Posts: 128
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Me
Chassis: 2001 IC
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 72
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it does get warm for the first hour but we place a fan right in the middle of the bus and it circulates the air perfect. Blow the fan towards the front where the worst cold air is and by the time it gets back its cooled enough to be comfortable.
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04-26-2019, 05:56 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Denver, co
Posts: 58
Year: 1999
Coachwork: International
Chassis: International (I think)
Engine: Dt466e w/ Allison md3060
Rated Cap: 84, 35000 gvwr
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In case anybody is wondering.... This helps me not at all.
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04-26-2019, 06:02 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Indiana
Posts: 128
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Me
Chassis: 2001 IC
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 72
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your stove pipe just needs to be above the highest point of the roof. Mine is very short and works perfect. I drive down the road with my fire blazing and no issues at all.
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04-26-2019, 06:19 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: south east BC, close to the Canadian/US border
Posts: 2,265
Year: 1975
Coachwork: Chevy
Chassis: 8 window
Engine: 454 LS7
Rated Cap: 24,500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ciscokid
your stove pipe just needs to be above the highest point of the roof. Mine is very short and works perfect. I drive down the road with my fire blazing and no issues at all.
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l've been wondering about that - thanks
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