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Old 11-09-2016, 07:26 PM   #11
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The pic that Milmania posted is near identical to the one that I have. I use 25-30 gallons of water per load and they are relatively small loads.

I carried a bit over 200 gallons of water in my Eagle. 1700 lbs of water in a 40,000 lb rig was not a huge deal. In a skoolie the weight may be more of a concern.
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Old 11-09-2016, 07:42 PM   #12
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25 to 30 gallons? i thought it would be like 5 max. I don't plan on traveling full of water but as I approach my destination I'll take on water.
With that amount in a washing load i may have just talked my self out of that. I can always wash clothes in my kitchen sink or buy a new $3 Walmart t-shirt if need be. I just don't want to cut into my showering. I like to shower when i wake up and plan on working in my shop so a shower after work wouldn't be out of line.
Another Rv thing were there is no middle ground for a reasonable cost.
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Old 11-09-2016, 08:00 PM   #13
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25 to 30 gallons? i thought it would be like 5 max. I don't plan on traveling full of water but as I approach my destination I'll take on water.
With that amount in a washing load i may have just talked my self out of that. I can always wash clothes in my kitchen sink or buy a new $3 Walmart t-shirt if need be. I just don't want to cut into my showering. I like to shower when i wake up and plan on working in my shop so a shower after work wouldn't be out of line.
Another Rv thing were there is no middle ground for a reasonable cost.
The tub in the washer is notably larger than a 5 gallon bucket. I would guess it at closer to 10 gallons capacity. It fills twice during a load and runs rinse water during the first spin cycle.

I was shocked when we started using it. When I was here by myself I went to town and used the laundromat. When my wife arrived our water usage doubled. Make sense, twice the people, twice the water. Then we started using the washer and our usage doubled again....

I can store over 700 gallons of water and I still have times that I have to tell my wife "no more laundry until it rains". That goes over really well.........

Take a look at this: https://www.amazon.com/Laundry-Alter...=wonder+washer
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Old 11-09-2016, 09:31 PM   #14
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I'll probably still go with the electric stackable units like these.... I am a single guy too so I'll probably only be doing laundry once a month or so (I have a lot of clothes so I can go a month between loads).... so 20-30 gallons once a month won't be a big deal.
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Old 11-09-2016, 09:36 PM   #15
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I'll probably still go with the electric stackable units like these.... I am a single guy too so I'll probably only be doing laundry once a month or so (I have a lot of clothes so I can go a month between loads).... so 20-30 gallons once a month won't be a big deal.
I wish I could do that. I have plenty of clothes but they will not all fit in one load. I could go for a couple of weeks without doing laundry but would have multiple loads to do. Instead of 30 gallons once a week it would be 120 gallons once every 4 weeks.

I used to wear a pair of jeans for two days before putting them in the laundry. Now I wear them until they are visibly dirty before washing.
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Old 11-10-2016, 12:17 PM   #16
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from google...

Most high-efficiency washers use only 15 to 30 gallons (56.8 to 113.6 L) of water to wash the same amount of clothes as older washers (29 to 45 gallons per load (109.7 to 170 L). The most efficient washers use less than 5 gallons (18.9 L) per cubic foot of capacity.

It'd be a lot more efficient to carry double the clothing and hit a laundry mat less often.

And the dryer..just as easy to hang it outside or even inside..the energy usage of a dryer is a lot.

Even dish washers use a good bit of water, compared to what you CAN do manually -some people use a lot of water dishwashing.


The average dishwasher uses 6 gallons of water per cycle; the average Energy Star-rated dishwasher uses 4 gallons per cycle, and their energy use ranges from 1.59 kWh per load down to 0.87 kWh per load.Jan 22, 2009

As for showering...(google know almost everything!)

Showering to Savings. In an average home, showers are typically the third largest water use after toilets and clothes washers. The average American shower uses 17.2 gallons (65.1 liters) and lasts for 8.2 minutes at average flow rate of 2.1 gallons per minute (gpm) (7.9 lpm).

So two showers a day and a load of dishes..35-40 gallons. Plus some for the toilet maybe, but i don't think camper toilets use nearly the water of a home unit.


In our camper we've showered maybe 3 times - it's just a lot more convenient to use the campground showers. They never run out of hot water, no tanks to fill or empty.

Our camper has a 6 gal propane only water heater..the pilot is manual and goes out of a raccoon sneazes in 20 mile radius. Tried a camco elec add-in and that lasted one trip and burned up. HOt water is one thing I'm not satisfied with in our camper that I want to change in a bus.
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Old 11-15-2016, 05:37 PM   #17
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Thanks for the replies. A washer/drier is something I would only use while on RV hookups. If there was something I could stuff in an outside-storage (and not worry about taking up space when not on hookups) then I figured that would be great. But I unless I get that manual washer it looks like everything is going to be too big. Oh Well!

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Old 11-15-2016, 08:02 PM   #18
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I bought one of these brand new off of Craigslist for $65, but I doubt it'll fit under storage bin



https://www.amazon.com/Panda-Portabl.../dp/B0092JSGXI
Good buy, those are close to a grand
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Old 11-16-2016, 01:59 AM   #19
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Putting a washing machine under the bus? Ive been thinking about this for a few days. I ran down to home depot this after noon to look at some appliances. I cant find any thing small enough to fit under a full size bus. you have about 2ft from the skirt to the frame rail and two feet to the bottom of the sheet metal skirt to the floor joist. But I'm not sure about the weather and road debris so they would have to be in sealed boxes. So the dryer would do this? I have taken some washers apart over the years and if you have your drain pump on the lowest part which is usually true. you could install a valve there to drain the washing machine totally for say winter. Then I think this would work. I'm not seeing a set that is less than 24" deep. wider is okay and you could even extend the skirt a few inches to cover a taller unit. It has to be a front loader on both.

Just spit balling but so far on the out side the best idea I could come up with is a rear deck that you sheet metal in a box big enough to hold the two machines and maybe some gear for other things. Done right some one might think its storage for the band or foot ball team from the factory.

If you have a rear engine building a deck on the front with the bumper re located out. then build a nose out of sheet metal to match the rest of the bus as a engine cover might look if a RE had a engine out front. I think this would be the most practical and cleanest way to add out side space to a bus. There are so many bus styles no one but a skoolie would even notice. I can see dryer and washer on each side with a big BBQ in the middle and it sticking out 5ft giving you a ton of room for storage behind the appliances for folding tables and chairs or Honda Spree Scooter or bikes that are all locked up and out of the weather.
Its not like your going to kill the aerodynamic design.
Plus its easy to build all open and out front. Take grinder and cut out the head light buckets and weld up that hole with new sheet metal and install them right in the front of your storage compartment. Then your just doing a pig tail extension for getting the power out there. The only thing i can really think of you would build around the front wiper doors so they open up. just frame around them on the inside and bottom.
Just have to make that bus sheet metal follow the same lines around and i think you would have a solid shed on board.
Make the rinse cycle spray on the from windshield for a good cleaning going down the road.
Also your drain pump line would be above any tank you had to hold gray water so you just pump it up and let it flow down where it has to be getting to the grey water tank. if from routing some ones stuck in the hose from drooping it would get pushed to the tank next time. and for inter install a tee and valve at that point. or that could be where you discharge your wash water in the right places.

If i had a whole bus for living quarters i would just make room for a stacking system myself. Water isn't that hard to find and dumping gray water is easy. Running the units on a small genset and propane is not expensive or hard on equipment. Plus you probably already have these things. Running it while your driving opens it up to your inverter.

I have left my self so little living space that not having the washer stack in there gives me a giant storage closet for supplies like can foods. I have even decided to go away from a full size fridge to a small dometic style 3 way power unit. I'll raise it up to the ceiling and leave the under space i pick up from not having a full size fridge for even more storage. I have a few years on my boat with the small fridge so I'm use to it. Its not what i want but what i think will work best. It also cut costs buy a lot maybe $1000 going with a small 3 way over a big 3 way. An of course not buying a dryer and washer. Funny thing is all i really want is my ice maker and water filter to be working and top notch. I'm hoping the new small dometics offer a ice maker now days or I'm buying a old used unit.
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Old 11-16-2016, 02:00 AM   #20
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Good buy, those are close to a grand
Is it heated or a condensing unit.
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