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Old 03-02-2018, 04:19 PM   #21
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The pioneer brand is good especially for the cost.
The 12k btu unit I am looking at is around 900$ right now and omens with the control wiring and insulated line set.
The only special that is needed is the gauges,hoses,vacuum pump,nitrogen to pressure test the connections and the correct freon to add a little if is low after starting and running. But the units come precharged for a specific line set length so you might end up taking a little out so that would be a freon container to recover back to.
But if your not set up or know that part of it then because of the cost of the specialty tool part then . You can usually get an HVAC service tech to come out and check it out and do that for you cheaper than buying all the tools.
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I just finished this process with two units. Fingers crossed. So far so good.







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The pioneer brand is good especially for the cost.
The 12k btu unit I am looking at is around 900$ right now and omens with the control wiring and insulated line set.
The only special that is needed is the gauges,hoses,vacuum pump,nitrogen to pressure test the connections and the correct freon to add a little if is low after starting and running. But the units come precharged for a specific line set length so you might end up taking a little out so that would be a freon container to recover back to.
But if your not set up or know that part of it then because of the cost of the specialty tool part then . You can usually get an HVAC service tech to come out and check it out and do that for you cheaper than buying all the tools.
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I just finished this process with two units. Fingers crossed. So far so good.
Thank you both for your input! If I can source a setup I guess I'll do the setup and then have a tech come to check my work.
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Old 03-05-2018, 07:43 AM   #24
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Thank you both for your input! If I can source a setup I guess I'll do the setup and then have a tech come to check my work.


Be aware that a lot of shops will not set up a unit they didn’t install. You can probably find somebody but just keep that in mind.
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Be aware that a lot of shops will not set up a unit they didn’t install. You can probably find somebody but just keep that in mind.
Thanks for the heads up! I'll have to ask around a bit.
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Old 04-08-2019, 01:42 PM   #26
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I have been looking at this unit by home depot, it is both heater and cooler.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/MRCOOL-D...115A/207085060

Can anyone tell me what they think about it? I plan on mounting it under the bus inside one of the cargo areas, when running it, I would open the cargo door so it could grab air from outside (one of the side cargo compartments, It would have solid surface underneath it so when driving no rocks or anything have a chance of hitting it, but it would have air flow from the open compartment door when parked.
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I have been looking at this unit by home depot, it is both heater and cooler.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/MRCOOL-D...115A/207085060

Can anyone tell me what they think about it? I plan on mounting it under the bus inside one of the cargo areas, when running it, I would open the cargo door so it could grab air from outside (one of the side cargo compartments, It would have solid surface underneath it so when driving no rocks or anything have a chance of hitting it, but it would have air flow from the open compartment door when parked.
I am considering the Pioneer units. I have heard good things about them and seen a couple of (so far..) successful installs in buses and RV'S.

They are about $500 cheaper than the Home Depot unit.

https://www.highseer.com/collections...24482197209152
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I am considering the Pioneer units. I have heard good things about them and seen a couple of (so far..) successful installs in buses and RV'S.

They are about $500 cheaper than the Home Depot unit.
Do you have a link for those units and do they include heat? Or just Cooling? Most mini splits I have search for that are under 1000 are just cooling. Also this home Depot product has all necessary parts for hooking it all up, although doubt it has brackets etc but it has all cables, hoses, comes pre filled with the freon etc.
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They are both heat and cool.
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They are both heat and cool.
You're awesome man, thanks, I have 30amp hookup you think this would run fine. I'm planning on starting my build and I am planning on sticking with 30amp.

I would have 1 LED TV, maybe 10 outlets for mobiles, laptop, canned lights with leds, water pump for water flow. We aren't planning on living full time we would probably be using bus for extended trips like 1-2 months at a time and will mostly be using campgrounds, though we will have generator on hand.

The mini split from home Depot says requires 20amp circuit. I'm guessing just to jumpstart but probably consumes more like 8-10amps.

I really don't see how my panel would trip if I have the other stuff on 1 or 2 more separate 15amp circuits. Fridge, Stove will be propane...possible fridge will be combination of AC/propane.
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I have a Pioneer 110V / 9000BTU unit installed in my bus. I did do it a little differently though and mounted the "outside" unit on the (isolated) rear deck of my RE Thomas bus. Works like a charm although I haven't taken it on the road yet. Only draws about 750W when running flat out.

All my piping is inside the bus so everything is pretty safe. Condenser is on rubber isolators.



Inside unit is on the side wall (will be over the sofa)
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I have the Pioneer 12000BTU units. I like them a lot. Really generator friendly. Heat, air, dehumidify and fan modes.

I run them while driving sometimes...
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I have the Pioneer 12000BTU units. I like them a lot. Really generator friendly. Heat, air, dehumidify and fan modes.

I run them while driving sometimes...
Anyone have any input, could I safely run one of these with 30amp hookup? I'm not running any electric stoves, hair dryers, ...just lights, some outlets for phones, laptops, tablets, 32 inch TV, a water pump....
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Anyone have any input, could I safely run one of these with 30amp hookup? I'm not running any electric stoves, hair dryers, ...just lights, some outlets for phones, laptops, tablets, 32 inch TV, a water pump....
While it does depend on the other loads the 30amp service is supporting.

If you have typical RV loads you could run two of them and still have some headroom.
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Anyone have any input, could I safely run one of these with 30amp hookup? I'm not running any electric stoves, hair dryers, ...just lights, some outlets for phones, laptops, tablets, 32 inch TV, a water pump....


In my experience, yes. No problems at all on 30 amp shore power. I have a 2800 watt generator that will usually run two of them fine unless it is up toward 100 degrees. 30 amps is 3600 watts, and shore power tends to be very forgiving for brief spikes.

If I were sizing a generator again I might have gone for a 4kw, but mine works fine for most of what I need.
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I have 2 inverter 12,000 mini splits. I can run one on a 15 amp circuit and have a little left over for other things. Using a kil-a-watt meter, start up is about 2A climbing slowly to 7 or 8A that's the highest I've seen on cool, a bit higher on heat. It makes heat down to almost 0° although, not much below 32°
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The 1200 btu 22seer asks for a 15 amp circuit. The motor is said to pull 8.4 amps while cooling and 9.8 while heating.

...per the brochure. Seems to match your kill-a-watt reading exactly.
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The 1200 btu 22seer asks for a 15 amp circuit. The motor is said to pull 8.4 amps while cooling and 9.8 while heating.

...per the brochure. Seems to match your kill-a-watt reading exactly.


I would not recommend per se but mine will usually both run fine on a single 20 amp shore power drop. Since they are infinitely variable they don’t use a lot of power once you approach your target temp.
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Old 04-09-2019, 01:32 PM   #39
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My units never reach their rated power usage on cool, it’s heat mode where the compressor and outdoor fan run at a. Higher native curve, couple with higher head pressure due to most units wanting to maintain a 115-120 degree median indoor coil temp on heat, they use more power in heat mode.. by at least 10-15% from what I’ve seen and tested on my 3 units.

My units were cheap Chinese ones 10 years ago maerketwd on the USA under the name grunaire. I’m having issues with the outdoor computer on one unit now.
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Awesome thanks guys! I'm gonna look at those pioneer ones!
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