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Old 01-09-2018, 05:46 AM   #1
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Built in AC Units - Remove?

Can I ask why anyone would want to get rid of the AC units that are built into the bus?

I live in Florida and it seems those inside AC units are getting pretty common on buses we are looking at here. Is there something about the system that isn't compatible with a schoolie conversion? Should we be avoiding them for conversion?

I assume they only work with the engine running so that limits their effectiveness and they do tend to be damn ugly and in really bad locations for a schoolie but not having any AC while your driving would suck no?

I am just getting into this schoolie world so please forgive any nativity as I am still just trying to figure this all out.
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Old 01-09-2018, 07:48 AM   #2
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since I drive my busses on average 15,000+ miles per year(each). (to florida in the summer too).... I say never get rid of the inside A/C unless you like to sweat driving.. me personally? i have no interest in going back to the days of towels wrapped around our heads to stay cool on those hot school field trip rides...

if you have a rear engine bus you have a better shot at a generator and whatever electric A/C you choose for camping keeping you somewhat cool on the road.. in a front engine bus even insulated you have a lot of engine heat to contend with.. not to mention that nig windshield with the sun beaming in.

I see a lot of people pull one unit out.. keep the front one. if you must choose.. and insulate your bus very well. and you'll have comfort for driving plus whatever you choose for being parked..

alot depends on whether you chase the 65-70 degree weather year round, only drive your bus short distances and dont care about the heat, .. mostly personal preference..

if you remove them nicely (and dont just slash them out). then there are people who would likely take them off of your hands if they work..

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Old 01-09-2018, 08:03 AM   #3
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You can take my AC units when you pry them from my chilly dead hands.

I think a lot of folks get the idea that they're going to run some window units or other electric driven form of AC, but haven't yet come to terms with the reality of generating and/or storing that sort of juice when not plugged into someone else's outlet. You already have a big diesel generator in your bus, it can run your AC and produce electricity and propel you down the road at the same time, and doesn't cost thousands of additional dollars to purchase.

Lots of threads on here of people trying to figure ou how to cool or heat their bus.
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I'll take any unwanted ac units!!
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Old 01-09-2018, 08:07 AM   #5
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I'll take any unwanted ac units!!
same here.. i could use another one in my DEV bus..

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same here.. i could use another one in my DEV bus..

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Lets turn these shorties into freezers!

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Old 01-09-2018, 08:57 AM   #7
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I took the road air out of my first bus. It was a huge mistake.

I had two 12k Btu roof airs and a generator to run them. They worked great when parked but couldn't keep up when on the road.
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Old 01-09-2018, 09:59 AM   #8
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If it's old and broken, and not going to be repaired.

Many old units are designed around refrigerant no longer legally obtainable and *have* to be replaced.

Many people live in climates where aircon is unnecessary, or just follow the 60's, whole point of being mobile.

And some object to that whole category of technology on principle, as accelerating the approaching inability of Gaia to support human life anymore.

But then they're probably not driving skoolies around much
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Have you seen the new construction with the quite small apartments that are being built? They say 350 to 400 sf apartments. Still bigger than a bus and still on the grid.
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I'm still trying to decide what to do with my road AC. It runs on R-22 and as of 1/1/2018 R-22 is a dodo. I can convert to R-134, but I loose half my capacity (or so the engineering docs say). I can convert to R-407 and keep my capacity. Either way, the compressor has to be refurb'ed to run with new lubricant.

Or, I can just run the R-22 until it finally leaks out and then decide.

Even then I still have to come up with a way to stay cool when parked. The big diesel in the back is really, really loud....
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