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10-14-2017, 12:20 AM
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Traveling
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Midwest
Posts: 2,573
Year: 2003
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: 5.9L Cummins
Rated Cap: '00
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Dishwasher thoughts? Gourmet Kitchen dreams
I wasn't going to include a dishwasher (machine) in my build because I figured I'd have my dishwasher (wife) with me on my travels. I was reading a post where they were shocked at how much water they used washing dishes in the sink and it stuck with me, I guess.
I sure don't want to give-up any extra storage space for a luxury not utilized, but as I was perusing the Lowes clearance section I found this little bad-boy.
Bosch 800 series Dishwasher. It is so cute- 18" wide. Supposed to be one of the best machines and we have 4 in our troupe. I think they are popular for under the bar.
My only concern is winterizing/freezing, so I'll have to figure something out. Pretty sure I have indoor Winter storage for the bus, so shouldn't be huge issue.
So, this latest addition rounds-out my Kitchen Harem nicely. The convection oven is tiny 24", as well. Only thing full-sized is the microwave. Fridge is still unknown, but probably will do the chest refreezerator thing, already own. I'll be adding a single propane burner to the Garland induction hob, as well- open to suggestions here.
It's quite an electrical load- 2 appliances are 220V, but I have 10Kw Diesel genny and 100 amp shore power. All my wiring is way overkill already. On a 30-amp supply, just can't run everything at once.
All totaled, I have $900 in the appliances, but they retail for $3700. Majority are unused, but scratch-n-dent. I'm a helluva cook.
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10-14-2017, 07:47 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,850
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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nice little device!! I would think you could just turn the unit on afyer you put some RV anti-freeze into your fresh tank and then run it through a fill and drain cycle.
Ive seen dishwashers in the fancy Prevost built coaches that sit unheated over the winter.
-Christopher
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10-14-2017, 07:51 AM
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Traveling
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Midwest
Posts: 2,573
Year: 2003
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: 5.9L Cummins
Rated Cap: '00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
nice little device!! I would think you could just turn the unit on afyer you put some RV anti-freeze into your fresh tank and then run it through a fill and drain cycle.
Ive seen dishwashers in the fancy Prevost built coaches that sit unheated over the winter.
-Christopher
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That's what I was hoping. I haven't bought a dishwasher in awhile- they added all kinds of computerized gizmos to them- it has it's own built-in water softener.
Being an expensive little computer, I'll have to throw some love it's way with little power conditioner.
More stuff= more work. If I end-up hating it, I'll just yank and fill the void with drawers.
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10-14-2017, 08:01 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Lake geneva Wisconsin
Posts: 199
Year: 93
Coachwork: Amtran
Chassis: International
Engine: 7.3 idi
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Thats the best part of doing it yourself. If you don't like it or change your mind. Well, you change it into something else. I've already done this many times in my build
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10-14-2017, 08:14 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,497
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 72 pax
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What about the old-school counter top dishwasher? It could fit in half the space that one does and stow away for travel.
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10-14-2017, 08:16 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: SE Florida
Posts: 1,108
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 65 pax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rusty
I sure don't want to give-up any extra storage space for a luxury not utilized, but as I was perusing the Lowes clearance section I found this little bad-boy.
All totaled, I have $900 in the appliances, but they retail for $3700. Majority are unused, but scratch-n-dent. I'm a helluva cook.
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She's a beaut! I don't seem to use that much water, but I also enjoy using use and toss plates and utensils, as well. Pretty little dishwasher you got there!
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10-14-2017, 08:16 AM
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Traveling
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Midwest
Posts: 2,573
Year: 2003
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: 5.9L Cummins
Rated Cap: '00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Njsurf73
What about the old-school counter top dishwasher? It could fit in half the space that one does and stow away for travel.
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I really had no intention of getting any dishwasher, but this one spoke to me. For some reason, I can't do things the easy way.
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10-14-2017, 08:17 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,497
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 72 pax
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Hahaha. Easy or not, your way in your bus is the right way!
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10-14-2017, 08:24 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: KANSAS CITY
Posts: 751
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Don't they have to be level?
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Former owner of a 1969 F600 Skoolie.
1998 Ford B700 Thomas body 65 passenger. 5.9 Cummins 12 valve with MT643 Transmission 123,000 miles.
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10-14-2017, 08:39 AM
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Traveling
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Midwest
Posts: 2,573
Year: 2003
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: 5.9L Cummins
Rated Cap: '00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Versatile
Don't they have to be level?
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That's a good point- the kind of feedback I had hoped for.
Aren't all campsites level?
Or I have to slap some leveler's on there. That's probably how the fancy coaches do it. So, my cheap little dishwasher will cost a few grand...
or a very large gimbal....
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10-14-2017, 09:26 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Dowdy Lakes, Colorado
Posts: 1,444
Year: 1989
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner ER
Engine: 3208 CAT/MT643 tranny
Rated Cap: 87
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Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence. — George Washington
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10-14-2017, 10:33 AM
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Traveling
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Midwest
Posts: 2,573
Year: 2003
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: 5.9L Cummins
Rated Cap: '00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by M1031A1
WHAAAAATTT?????? You mean to tell me NOW that campsites are not level?????? Who would ever open an uneven campsite???????
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I know, really. All the Walmart lots I stay at have been very level.
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10-14-2017, 01:28 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: SE Florida
Posts: 1,108
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 65 pax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by M1031A1
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LOL... they are for the most part
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10-14-2017, 02:37 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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After living with limited water availability for several years I learned to wash a meals worth of dishes for two using about 2 gallons of water. I would be quite surprised if a machine can match a really frugal hand wash.
Just my $0.02
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10-14-2017, 02:40 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,850
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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for levelling you arent installing that system where you just push a button that levels the bus?
a Prevost i drove quite a bit had that.. it was cool...
-Christopher
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10-14-2017, 02:41 PM
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Traveling
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Midwest
Posts: 2,573
Year: 2003
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: 5.9L Cummins
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PNW_Steve
After living with limited water availability for several years I learned to wash a meals worth of dishes for two using about 2 gallons of water. I would be quite surprised if a machine can match a really frugal hand wash.
Just my $0.02
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This bad-boy uses 3 gallons/ cycle, but does 10 place settings. 1300 watts. 45 db.
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10-14-2017, 02:45 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Lake geneva Wisconsin
Posts: 199
Year: 93
Coachwork: Amtran
Chassis: International
Engine: 7.3 idi
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Stainless and cast iron... just add fat,heat and wipe clean no need for water in washing
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10-14-2017, 02:46 PM
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Traveling
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Midwest
Posts: 2,573
Year: 2003
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: 5.9L Cummins
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
for levelling you arent installing that system where you just push a button that levels the bus?
a Prevost i drove quite a bit had that.. it was cool...
-Christopher
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I intend to add leveler- someday . Just passed-up an auction for 4 rebuilt dump-truck hoists (hydr cylinder) for $110. Indy auctioned off a bunch of jaws-of-life kits w/ hydr pump for $350. Half a grand and I coulda lifted the entire bus a foot in the air.
My brother-in-law is President of electronics company that caters to RV industry, he makes embedded controls for levelers. I need to hit him up for group buy.
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10-14-2017, 02:46 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Lake geneva Wisconsin
Posts: 199
Year: 93
Coachwork: Amtran
Chassis: International
Engine: 7.3 idi
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Even baking soda and vinegar is the best way to clean no chemicals
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10-14-2017, 02:47 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Lake geneva Wisconsin
Posts: 199
Year: 93
Coachwork: Amtran
Chassis: International
Engine: 7.3 idi
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I'd be interested in levlers on that group buy for sure
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