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05-13-2018, 11:20 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Wisconsin N.E.
Posts: 412
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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I bought an old stove now what
So I bought an old 40s gas stove because is sooooo cool looking. I'm not a fan of the look of square stainless or black new ones.
I read I have to change the oraffice, this one has no regulator I'd have to change the oraffice on each burner and the oven. The question is can I just put a grill style propane regulator on the line in to drop the pressure? Also it has a pilot, but there is an adjustment on that so an easy place to delete it and go old school match light or ad a pizio starter.
Also I'd love to have an old fridge that kinda matches but they are very inefficient. I've been thinking I could get an old non working one and add the guys of a new high efficiency unit. Mostly by cutting the back out of the old one and new one and sealing the back of new one to the old unit and upping the insulation.
Some smart folks here so I figured if I'm way off someone here would know. Or if there is a better to reach the end goal I'd appreciate hearing it!
Thanks
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05-14-2018, 08:43 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Port angeles, Wa
Posts: 319
Year: 90
Coachwork: bluebird conventional
Chassis: international
Engine: dt466
Rated Cap: 72
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First off, don't guess with gas. Get it done right and get pro advice on installation. You will blow yourself up with just one mistake.
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05-14-2018, 09:06 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Wisconsin N.E.
Posts: 412
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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Ive tested filled and delivered propane, I fully intend to do this outside and test. I'm good on the proane safety I just know very little about natural gas and converting a stove.
I do know I could take it to the local propane dealer and have it done. It's not a price thing, it's cheap. I just want to do do it myself.
Propane is alot less dangerous than people seem to think. Yes it can kill you, but with relatively simple safety precautions it's very safe. It's super hard to "blow up". It takes a fairly specific fuel air ratio to explode. I'm concerned about getting to big or not big enough cooking flame. Or having more pressure than the simple burner control valves can shut off.
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05-14-2018, 09:08 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Wisconsin N.E.
Posts: 412
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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Oh yeah, don't try this at home!
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05-14-2018, 09:11 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Ashtabula, Ohio
Posts: 1,494
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: T444E 7.3L
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You need to properly convert the stove with the orifices. My stove had adjustable ones, so the conversion was easy. When experimenting, I hooked propane to the stove and only switched the regulator. This did not work and the orifices had to be adjusted so I had a nice, blue flame.
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05-14-2018, 09:12 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Wisconsin N.E.
Posts: 412
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Mullet
You need to properly convert the stove with the orifices. My stove had adjustable ones, so the conversion was easy. When experimenting, I hooked propane to the stove and only switched the regulator. This did not work and the orifices had to be adjusted so I had a nice, blue flame.
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Thanks, just what I was looking for.
Now to find oraffices for a 1941 roper stove
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05-14-2018, 10:20 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Damascus, OR
Posts: 681
Year: 2004
Chassis: International
Engine: T444e w/ 2000 Allison Trans
Rated Cap: 35
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post a pic of this COOL looking stove. very interested!
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05-14-2018, 10:37 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Colorado
Posts: 400
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Hold my beer.
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05-14-2018, 12:43 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Wisconsin N.E.
Posts: 412
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rovobay
post a pic of this COOL looking stove. very interested!
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Gotta work today and it's still loaded in the van. I'll get it out and get pics up as soon as I buy a regulator. I'll post picks of converting it too
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05-14-2018, 12:48 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Frisco, Texas
Posts: 829
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: Dt466e
Rated Cap: 71
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So did you end up with another bus yet or still looking?
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05-14-2018, 01:02 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Wisconsin N.E.
Posts: 412
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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Still looking for a bus, but I'm so sure I'm moving into on I'm selling my crap and buying appliances for the bus I don't have yet. I'm not going to rush I'll find the right one
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05-16-2018, 02:08 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Wisconsin N.E.
Posts: 412
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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Here she is
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05-16-2018, 02:12 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Wisconsin N.E.
Posts: 412
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: 5.9
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This thing came with original paperwork and pans
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05-16-2018, 06:25 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Ashtabula, Ohio
Posts: 1,494
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: T444E 7.3L
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Wow! That old stove is awesome!
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05-16-2018, 12:07 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Wisconsin N.E.
Posts: 412
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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It's bigger than I wanted but it was in such good condition the original roper cook books and pans were still in their packages.
Helps it was cheap too
I'll get some picks up this weekend of converting it
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05-16-2018, 01:14 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
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Rated Cap: 15
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Roper made excellent cooking stoves. Like many older units, they are heavy as Hell but that's one of the reasons they work so well. If converting to propane...PLEASE...get an expert to do the conversion, tune it up, and check for leaks. I used to sell antiques, including stoves (mostly Chambers), and had customers try to do their own work on them with less than favorable (read..."dangerous") results.
There are some great older stoves around. Just don't burn down the barn trying to cheap out setting one up properly. Done right, they can last 20 lifetimes. Done wrong...they can take 20 lives.
Just sayin...
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05-16-2018, 01:40 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Wisconsin N.E.
Posts: 412
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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I don't know alot about appliances but I do know propane, I filled tanks, tested tanks, ran a pump filling tanks, I can change out safety and fill valves.
That said the gas system in this stove is very straight forward. Line in, cast iron pipe across the front to each burner/knob and one pipe down the back to feed the oven/broiler.
I plan on deleting the pilot and pulling all the joints and fittings apart for a nice new coat of tan goo. I'll pressure test first to see if I have any problems with the cast iron I may need to braze.
Looks like these oraffices (oraffi?) Might be adjustable. See more when she comes apart
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05-17-2018, 05:57 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Wisconsin N.E.
Posts: 412
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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So here is my oraffic set up, two? I'm guessing the extra is for higher flame I can here when the knob engages it, just about half way.
And the skinny piping is for the pilot, I'll adjust it closed and leak check, if it's not closing properly I'll cap it off. I'm going match lit anyway
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05-17-2018, 05:59 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Owasso, OK
Posts: 2,627
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
Engine: Cummins 6CTA8.3 Mechanical MD3060
Rated Cap: 46 Coach Seats, 40 foot
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tango
Roper made excellent cooking stoves. Like many older units, they are heavy as Hell but that's one of the reasons they work so well. If converting to propane...PLEASE...get an expert to do the conversion, tune it up, and check for leaks. I used to sell antiques, including stoves (mostly Chambers), and had customers try to do their own work on them with less than favorable (read..."dangerous") results.
There are some great older stoves around. Just don't burn down the barn trying to cheap out setting one up properly. Done right, they can last 20 lifetimes. Done wrong...they can take 20 lives.
Just sayin...
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We have a Chambers sitting in the shop, but at 400 lbs it's going in our kitchen, not the bus
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05-17-2018, 06:38 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Wisconsin N.E.
Posts: 412
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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She's quite a bit bigger and heavier than I was looking for
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