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Old 02-02-2008, 06:30 PM   #11
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Re: keeping that beer cold

The second fridge was because there were 5 of us on a 10 day odyssey requiring extra room for tasty beverages AND food. Those form fridges are only so big ya know...

The inverters were $40.44 each shipped. I stumbled across them on eBay QUITE some time ago, but I know I was not the only one to purchase them as referenced by this thread. They have proven to be quite reliable. They have gotten a little noisier, but that might be because their wood-in-metal mount has moved. I know I had one slight issue with them not dealing with surges as they should at one point, but it turned out to just be that my ground wire was loose. Overall I've been very pleased and they owe me nothing. I wish I had a single big inverter sometimes just to deal with a single larger load, but there are advantages to the way I have them now as well.

*edit* the next inverters I'll add to the system will be some 12 volt UPS's I got for free. They can't support a huge load, but will do nicely to power just the outlets in my bedroom for instance.
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Old 02-03-2008, 03:24 AM   #12
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I made the investment in a Norcold N410 2 way fridge. It runs on propane or shore power/Gennies. It really is super cold and has a freezer. You're not supposed to run it on propane while driving, but everybody does. I split my propane lines to run my fridge and my stove. If you don't have the battery bank room, this is great. You need to build it in good and have a co2/propane detector and vent it well for safety.
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Old 02-08-2008, 12:20 PM   #13
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odyssess that sounds like the way to go i think that is the same fridge that is in my 98 wanderer trailer i was at my buddys shop yesterday,he builds very small travell trailers,and showed me a 2 way fridge. it was a smaller unit from a truck camper and it was 1100 bucks new! i was flabbergasted(love that word)! i cant bring myself to fix the fridge that is in my bus now the door is warped and does not seal, and will not run on 110. im still looking, but im not parting with that kind of money. thats more than what i paid for the whole bus timbuk
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Old 02-14-2008, 03:47 PM   #14
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I opted for an ac/dc 1/2 size fridge (out of a converted van in a pick n pull). I had a 3 way, 2 way and a dc to choose from. All of them worked. It took about 2 hours to pull them from various rigs and cost under $100 for all of them. Well worth it. There is no way to test them on site, but you can get your money back if they are faulty. I sold the 3 way for $50, the guy was very happy. I chose the 2 way because 3 ways are very fussy creatures. They use far more power in electric mode than a 2 way. They must be within 2 degrees of level to function properly. Repairs are very expensive. Power on the other hand is cheap to produce as genny's are now quite affordable and solar is getting there. They can be run directly off shore power which is great if you ever plan on using it at your home, or are staying at a campground. Propane tanks are expensive to fill. And on 12v, my little fridge doesn't use much power. Sorry, I don't have the numbers in front of me, but when I worked in the service dept I had all the numbers and it made sense.

Good luck as we all have unique needs that need to be filled. And I second the recomedation for the coleman cooler as a backup. We used one as a primary fridge for 10 weeks a couple of summers ago and it kept meat, dairy and beer nice and cold all summer. It still works, and I bought mine used!

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Old 02-18-2008, 01:10 AM   #15
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All right, time for me to start planning the installation of the Dometic 2310 I just salvaged out of a camping trailer. (This is a three-way unit, and I expect to run in on electricity, since I'm a bit paranoid about propane.)

Now my question: I see that these things need to sit level to work. Well, there is no way Millicent is always going to be parked level. So I need to level the fridge in relation to the bus. I figure on two sets of hinges and screw-jacks. (Maybe the two parking jacks I just took off the trailer, allthough that would be overkill.) I'd install a bubble level on the unit, and once we are parked check the bubble and crank the two handles as needed. Any thoughts?
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Old 02-18-2008, 02:05 AM   #16
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not sure if this helps..but our Dometic is not level..and works just fine on elec. I do have the propane turned off on it though....just something about using a explosive gas to keep food cold turns me off.
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All right, time for me to start planning the installation of the Dometic 2310 I just salvaged out of a camping trailer. (This is a three-way unit, and I expect to run in on electricity, since I'm a bit paranoid about propane.)

Now my question: I see that these things need to sit level to work. Well, there is no way Millicent is always going to be parked level. So I need to level the fridge in relation to the bus. I figure on two sets of hinges and screw-jacks. (Maybe the two parking jacks I just took off the trailer, allthough that would be overkill.) I'd install a bubble level on the unit, and once we are parked check the bubble and crank the two handles as needed. Any thoughts?

why not just use an electric fridge?

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Now my question: I see that these things need to sit level to work. Well, there is no way Millicent is always going to be parked level. So I need to level the fridge in relation to the bus. I figure on two sets of hinges and screw-jacks. (Maybe the two parking jacks I just took off the trailer, allthough that would be overkill.) I'd install a bubble level on the unit, and once we are parked check the bubble and crank the two handles as needed. Any thoughts?
Well Elliot, if you like Rube Goldberg devices, you can gimbal the fridge. Just put rollers on the bottom, place everything in a big metal bowl, and the fridge should level itself. Only kidding.

The fridge should be alright not leveled, just not as efficient. Of course everything has it's limits.
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Because I already own this one. But yes, for Burning Man, a household refrigerator would be a good idea. And a big chest freezer for ice cream!


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I would never kid about my hero Rube Goldberg! And yes, I have thought of this, except I thought of suspending the refrigerator from above. But ball-rollers in a half-sphere would be much more elegant, yes.
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You need to think that through, are you sure you aren't going to level your bus when you get to your destination? It will feel wierd walking on a slope or angle and you won't sleep as well. Your shower probably won't drain right, you can't cook correctly and your tanks won't behave right. I bet you will try and level it up when you set up and it's not that hard really. I made a step type ramp to drive up on to level up my bus and it works well. I took scrap 2x12's and glued and screwed them together, 4', 3', 2' and 1' lengths. All you do is put them under the lowest wheel or wheels, pull up on them as you watch your leveling bubbles, stop when level or roll off adjust them and try again, extra help is good here, takes about 5 minutes. We used to pour water on the countertop and see which way it runs and adjust accordingly, now we have bubbles to watch. I never run my fridge while underway because the manual says not to. At the cost of a new one I think I will pay attention to the manufacturers reccomendations. Of course that means we either have to pre-cool for the trip or use a cooler which means more gear to haul. You have done a great job on your bus, you are an inspiration, or is that persperation? sportyrick
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