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Old 11-15-2016, 01:13 PM   #1
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1997 Bluebird minibus

Good day everyone. I am working on a friends bus he uses on a farm. the bus keeps blowing the starter fuse. I went behind the fuse panel and found melted wire ( no more coating just bare wire) replaced the wire to the bulk harness connector at the fire wall. Inside the engie bay I found it to be a grey wire. using a multimeter I found the the wire is short to ground also is making a tone with other wires in the connector. I cannot find a wire diagram for this year anywhere. I've disconnected the ecu and all the relay on the fire wall and still have short to ground and cross with other wires. Does anyone know what or where the grey wire goes? or has anyone had a similar problem and can point me in a direction to where maybe the problem may lie? when disconnnecting the connector from the fire wall the problem still exsists so im pretty sure its not inside the bus and the problem lies in the engine compartment.
Thank you in advance for any help you may offer. and thank you for letting me be a part of this forum.
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Old 11-15-2016, 02:57 PM   #2
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Who made the base chassis that the blue bird bus body was put on?

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Old 11-15-2016, 03:02 PM   #3
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Not to be ignorant but where would I find that? I found a body number M80640
Also I found a solenoid on the transmission that is frayed I disconnected it and my short went away. The thing I'm not getting is I had continuity across multiple colored wires and that ms not there anymore either. I find it odd that a shift solenoid would cause all that.
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Old 11-15-2016, 03:08 PM   #4
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I don't know if this will help but looking at the connector from the outside its second row from top 3rd wire in from left on the blue clip side. If that makes any sense.
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Old 11-15-2016, 03:20 PM   #5
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Old 11-15-2016, 04:28 PM   #6
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The Blue Bird micro bird chassis was made by Chevrolet or Ford. The Chevrolet chassis changed from the G30 chassis to the Express chassis 1996/1997. The Ford chassis is based on the "E" series (E 350 & E 450)/ Econoline.

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Old 11-15-2016, 07:38 PM   #7
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for some reason I cannot upload more than one picture at a time. dorry for taking so long to get back to y'all. as I said im out on a farm with no signal.
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Old 11-15-2016, 07:43 PM   #8
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the upload page keeps tiing out. It has a T4443G International engine. and now its throwing like 8 codes 136,142,152,223,224,615 and 622. I am having a bear of a time finding anything. as stated that year could have come on multiple frames. is that a reason why its hard to get info?
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Old 11-15-2016, 07:53 PM   #9
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Here is the data plate. I hope all this helps you help me. just trying to help a friend.
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Old 11-16-2016, 01:39 AM   #10
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If it has an IHC T444E engine then it most likely has an IHC chassis under the Blue Bird bus body.

What does the front of the bus look like? Does it have a Ford, Chevy/GMC, or IHC nose out front?

Knowing which chassis you have can help sort out what we are talking about.
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