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Old 02-09-2016, 09:46 PM   #1
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Hehe so I bought the 97 bluebird 8.3 Cummins md3060 from Seattle area and its very rust free. I live in Kalamazoo Michigan and plan on living in the bus full time starting this fall with my lady friend and 9 mo old Australian Shepherd. We want to have a wood burning stove, probably propane for backup heat\electric. Solar paneling on roof preferably removable for traveling and parking. We want to spend a few months traveling the west side of the US backpacking national parks and adventuring about. We also plan on a sink, composting toilet and shower but am unsure about hot water. We will live out of the bus and work temp jobs to save for what we need once we run out of money (less emergency fund).

So that's what the plan is... So far I have enjoyed what we have done. Unbolted the seats I could access under the bus and angle grinder to the rest. Have all the floor up except where the driver seat was. Pulled the 2 rear heaters. I gave all the seats away to someone on CL. Now I'm running into questions and am pretty sure I've read most if not all threads pertaining to flooring. Now I have no experience with anything construction related so the way I'm doing this is by trying to find someone who has done something similar and just copying that project. I'm just not quite grasping how the floor\wall framing\ceiling all go together or is the floor a separate entity? Do I plan. All 3 out at once? If I use self tapping screws to screw anything to the floor doesn't that create a thermal\moisture bridge that seems to be very desirable? It seems I need to keep that bottom part of the wall intact? Does people seal walls with any rustoleum? Can I run the bus with my air ride seat detached? The air line that pumps air to the seat is disconnected and might just start pumping a lot of air? Is anything done to attach floors to walls? I was thinking floating floor to avoid screws. I figure if I do a good job with the rustoleum for sealing off the already pretty rust free floor I could just use adhesive to attach everything together and still have some floor to maybe toenail a little bit down.

I am trying to take this one thing at a time and currently working on getting rivets out of walls and ceiling but the floor is coming up and although I've spent several hours trying to figure out what and how to do it all I still feel a little unsure. I know everyone does things a little differently but I would really like to have an instruction manual on how to get the floor and framing done. The tentative plan is to frame with 2x4s or 2x3s. Do those just get bolted to those ribs of the bus. I think I've been over thinking but was wondering if anyone had a lot of free time and wanted to help me without advising me to read more build threads. I have gone through quite a few but I think I over think things and confuse myself.

How the floor gets attached and how it corresponds or attached to the walls and if I can run my bus with the air ride seat detached are my big ones right now. Pm me if you want to help and I can give out my phone number too
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Old 02-09-2016, 10:05 PM   #2
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This was on my way back to Michigan. Montana I think.
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Old 02-09-2016, 10:11 PM   #3
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Started pulling rubber floor up but found it easier to slice the rubber where the plywood seams were with a blade and pull up wood with the rubber as a whole.

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Old 02-09-2016, 10:20 PM   #4
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Old 02-10-2016, 07:26 AM   #5
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Yeah I was very excited to get such a rust free bus. Under the walls seems immaculate as well. I'll snap a few more Friday when I'm back at it (it's 10 minutes away at my parents house)
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Old 02-11-2016, 06:45 PM   #6
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Hehe so I bought the 97 bluebird 8.3 Cummins md3060 from Seattle area and its very rust free. I live in Kalamazoo Michigan and plan on living in the bus full time starting this fall with my lady friend and 9 mo old Australian Shepherd. We want to have a wood burning stove, probably propane for backup heat\electric. Solar paneling on roof preferably removable for traveling and parking. We want to spend a few months traveling the west side of the US backpacking national parks and adventuring about. We also plan on a sink, composting toilet and shower but am unsure about hot water. We will live out of the bus and work temp jobs to save for what we need once we run out of money (less emergency fund).

So that's what the plan is... So far I have enjoyed what we have done. Unbolted the seats I could access under the bus and angle grinder to the rest. Have all the floor up except where the driver seat was. Pulled the 2 rear heaters. I gave all the seats away to someone on CL. Now I'm running into questions and am pretty sure I've read most if not all threads pertaining to flooring. Now I have no experience with anything construction related so the way I'm doing this is by trying to find someone who has done something similar and just copying that project. I'm just not quite grasping how the floor\wall framing\ceiling all go together or is the floor a separate entity? Do I plan. All 3 out at once? If I use self tapping screws to screw anything to the floor doesn't that create a thermal\moisture bridge that seems to be very desirable? It seems I need to keep that bottom part of the wall intact? Does people seal walls with any rustoleum? Can I run the bus with my air ride seat detached? The air line that pumps air to the seat is disconnected and might just start pumping a lot of air? Is anything done to attach floors to walls? I was thinking floating floor to avoid screws. I figure if I do a good job with the rustoleum for sealing off the already pretty rust free floor I could just use adhesive to attach everything together and still have some floor to maybe toenail a little bit down.

I am trying to take this one thing at a time and currently working on getting rivets out of walls and ceiling but the floor is coming up and although I've spent several hours trying to figure out what and how to do it all I still feel a little unsure. I know everyone does things a little differently but I would really like to have an instruction manual on how to get the floor and framing done. The tentative plan is to frame with 2x4s or 2x3s. Do those just get bolted to those ribs of the bus. I think I've been over thinking but was wondering if anyone had a lot of free time and wanted to help me without advising me to read more build threads. I have gone through quite a few but I think I over think things and confuse myself.

How the floor gets attached and how it corresponds or attached to the walls and if I can run my bus with the air ride seat detached are my big ones right now. Pm me if you want to help and I can give out my phone number too
Hi. You read my mind with your questions. I just finished pulling up my floor and have been trying to figure out how to get the ceiling down and do I want to take the walls off and etc...I think about it so much and try to read everything I can that I just end up overwhelming myself. So I just keep telling myself one step at a time.
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Old 02-11-2016, 10:12 PM   #7
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We have a 1996 Bluebird AARE 8.3 with MD 3060 and what we did for the
floors was lay out a grid of 5/4 boards which measure to a true 1.0 inches
and put down a grid which we attached to the steel floors with TEK screws
which we counter sunk to defeat the thermal bridge then we filled the grid
with 1" foam sheeting and put a sub-floor over that we then used composite
flooring over the top of that. We left the flooring free floating. The walls we
did the same thing with since the chair rail also sticks out and inch we did
the same thing on the walls. For lumber for the grid we use 5/4 x 4" and
then ripped it in two to 1 3/4 for the grid.
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Old 02-16-2016, 07:41 AM   #8
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We have a 1996 Bluebird AARE 8.3 with MD 3060 and what we did for the
floors was lay out a grid of 5/4 boards which measure to a true 1.0 inches
and put down a grid which we attached to the steel floors with TEK screws
which we counter sunk to defeat the thermal bridge then we filled the grid
with 1" foam sheeting and put a sub-floor over that we then used composite
flooring over the top of that. We left the flooring free floating. The walls we
did the same thing with since the chair rail also sticks out and inch we did
the same thing on the walls. For lumber for the grid we use 5/4 x 4" and
then ripped it in two to 1 3/4 for the grid.

Thanks! I realized being below freezing I have to wait to do the floors anyway first ceiling panel off though! All wall panels except the front are off but I was thinking of walling off the cockpit and not worrying about that area as much. Still undecided

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