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Old 10-22-2016, 07:10 PM   #21
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Do a double-dose of Diesel Kleen (grey bottle) and an oil change, then run it hard. I had a "sticky" injector on mine, and after a few hundred miles with good oil and injector cleaner, it was a new machine.

Absolutely wont hurt a thing to try it.
I actually picked up a bottle of Diesel Kleen today. I will pick up another one tomorrow and give it the double dose on the first fill up. 1200miles home should hopefully be enough for her to shake off the cobwebs!
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Old 10-22-2016, 07:16 PM   #22
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I love diesel Kleen.. I run 1/2 a standard bottle every other tank of fuel... my tank is 26 gallons on both busses..

be sure to to keep clean oil in it and check oil and coolant often as mentioned.. if the oil looks especially dirty, get it changed before your long ride, or at the very least put on a new oil filter.. if it doesnt look bad then just drive it

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Old 10-22-2016, 07:19 PM   #23
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I actually picked up a bottle of Diesel Kleen today. I will pick up another one tomorrow and give it the double dose on the first fill up. 1200miles home should hopefully be enough for her to shake off the cobwebs!
im totally about the 1000+ mile maiden voyages... if your bus makes it no issues then you know you have a great bus to convert and will likely give you good service as an RV... if you have a catastrophic fasilure at least it happened before you put time effort and money into a conversion..

also if you have the ability, get some basic tools... my first bus i broke down and was at the mercy of a truck-down service which seemed to be a tad less than fully competent.. I learned a half a day into my breakdown I couldve fixed it to limp along if I had simply had a socket set, a few screwdrivers and some wrenches... I had nothing and was in desolate empty georgia..

Luckily I was off the road and there was a hotel (witha bar and internet)...

so now I make sure I have at least a few basic tools.. theres often times alot you can do to limp somewhere or you can order a part to your hotel room and put it on..

when all else fails theres truckdiown.com

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Old 10-24-2016, 10:35 AM   #24
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That's me getting on the road.... everybody be on standby to rescue me!
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Old 10-24-2016, 11:17 AM   #25
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Weeellll I didn't get far. 10miles in and the smoke was getting terrible and oil pressure was falling to around 25psi. Actually have oil dropping from the exhaust.

First thought was turbo, but it is new. Any other ideas for the T444e?

If I can't figure it out today or tomorrow I will most likely have to put it into the next auction, it's too far to travel 1200 each time till I get it working. Sucks!!!
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Old 10-24-2016, 11:27 AM   #26
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The back of the bus is splattered in oil. That wasn't there when the bus was driven here, nor when I was driving around the yard. Could I have done something when topping off oil etc? Or has has bad luck caused something to fail so quickly?
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Old 10-24-2016, 11:38 AM   #27
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if you over-fill a T-444E it will blow oil.. if that T-444E has a RACOR CCV on it then it recirculates blow-by from the cvrankcase into the intake and will make smoke..

oil dripping from the exhaist makes me think its an injector O-ring gone bad and is dumping oil into a cylinder...

does the engine Miss? as in feel like its out of rhythm, running on 6 or 7 cylinders, esp when its idling?

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Old 10-24-2016, 11:42 AM   #28
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It is hard to diagnose your problem without actually seeing and hearing the bus run.

If it had been throwing oil on the way to the auction yard, even if it had been steam cleaned you should still have been able to see evidence of oil on the back of the bus.

It is possible that the turbo oil seal has failed and you are pumping oil straight into the exhaust. With so much stuff coming out of China these days the quality of replacement parts can be sort of iffy.

One has to wonder why the turbo was changed in the first place.

It could be possible that you overfilled the sump. On a used vehicle there is no telling for sure if something like the dipstick is the correct one for that engine.

I have not other guesses at this point.
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Old 10-24-2016, 11:52 AM   #29
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is your WARN engine light coming on? a blown turbo very well may not turn on the light,

but why i ask about an engine miss is if its running perfectly smooth but still blowing unburnt oil all over the back of the bus I would more suspect a turbo like you and cowlitz suggest.. if it has a miss in it and is only hitting on 6 or 7 cylinders I would suspect an injector O-ring or possibly over-filled engine with oil getting by a valve guide seal, or possibly the intake side of the turbo blowing oil into the air intake which would make incredible amounts of smoke..

however i wouldnt expect to see unburnt oil if it is going into the intake unless its so much that cylinder is not firing....

the low oil pressure is likely caused by one of a couple things.

1. a blown turbo will opbviously be leaking oil out to the point the pump cannot keep up
2. the oil level has dropped very quickly due to oil being burned and blown all over.
3. a bad injector oil seal will cause the computer to ramp up the HPOP to try and recover from the leak and will make your lube oil pressure (dash gauge pressure) go lower due to an increased volume required.

4. oil pressure drops as engines warm up.. esp if they are worn.. if the bearings are bad the oil P will drop.. however at thios point id suspect injector seal or turbo as the reason for oil pressure loss..


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Old 10-24-2016, 11:53 AM   #30
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It may be a little lumpy at idle I guess, although it doesn't feel like it is missing. I don't think it seems any different from any other large diesel, although I am no expert. I didn't feel down on power although I was on narrow country roads and didn't get above 35mph anyway.

The dipstick shows at the lower end of the "good" area. I topped it off this morning as it was 2qts low.

I wonder if the turbo was changed in an attempt to diagnose the smoke and they just decided to sell when it didn't cure the problem?

There was definitely no oil on the back of the bus when I got here, and it was pretty filthy so definelty hadn't had oil cleaned off etc, although it was a little smokey when it made the 100+mile drive here.
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