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05-09-2017, 06:52 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 112
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
is it at your house now?
-Christopher
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No. It's going to get converted into a camper and I'm gonna travel around that world
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05-09-2017, 06:58 PM
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#22
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,835
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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Quote:
Originally Posted by _Bus_102_
No. It's going to get converted into a camper and I'm gonna travel around that world
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LOL no I mean have you gotten it home now? where you can drive it? and make sure it all works correctly...
-Christopher
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05-09-2017, 07:08 PM
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#23
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Skoolie
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 112
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
LOL no I mean have you gotten it home now? where you can drive it? and make sure it all works correctly...
-Christopher
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It's still at the place it's sitting at I'm trying to get batteries for it
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05-25-2017, 09:13 PM
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#24
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Skoolie
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 112
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Question. My bus has a 3800 with T444e 7.3L. What size batteries are recommended that I should get
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05-25-2017, 09:33 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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Some of us use a large 8D battery. Others use two golf cart batteries, AGM31 I think.
So how is 101 running?
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Nobody's Business
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05-26-2017, 12:27 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Winlcok, WA
Posts: 2,233
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Quote:
Originally Posted by _Bus_102_
Question. My bus has a 3800 with T444e 7.3L. What size batteries are recommended that I should get
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It all depends upon what you have in there right now.
If it has multiple Group 31 with studs you will need to change the cable ends for lugs if you change to 8D batteries.
If it has multiple 8D batteries with lugs you will need to change the cable ends if you change the batteries to Group 31 with studs.
Both have pros and cons. I prefer the studs as I don't have as much of a problem with corrosion with the studs as I do with the lugs.
Regardless of which size the battery case is make sure as you price compare that you are comparing apples to apples. I was looking at one set of 8D batteries that had a very attractive price until I looked at what the CCA rating was. The low price 8D's had a lower CCA rating than some of the Group 31's which were lower priced than the 8D's.
Compare the CCA rating and then the price knowing that just because it has a certain size case doesn't determine how much juice can be stored inside of it.
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05-29-2017, 08:47 PM
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#27
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Skoolie
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 112
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin97396
Some of us use a large 8D battery. Others use two golf cart batteries, AGM31 I think.
So how is 101 running?
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Trying to find batteries to get it crunk
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05-30-2017, 06:16 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,835
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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Quote:
Originally Posted by _Bus_102_
Trying to find batteries to get it crunk
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you can buy group 31 batteries about anywhere.. as ECCB may have mentioend, see if you have a rural king near you.. i think you can buy group 31s at walmart. even a single battery will probably start that bus being that its summer time.
-Christopher
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05-30-2017, 06:37 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Yeah RK has 31's for $79.99. They even go on sale occasionally!
I started my bus with one when I got it. One battery fired bus 50 in 11f Kentucky winter. There were icicles in the bus.
Of course, this bus has an all mechanical DT466, so its easy to start and doesn't need any battery power to run.
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06-11-2017, 01:00 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 112
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
Yeah RK has 31's for $79.99. They even go on sale occasionally!
I started my bus with one when I got it. One battery fired bus 50 in 11f Kentucky winter. There were icicles in the bus.
Of course, this bus has an all mechanical DT466, so its easy to start and doesn't need any battery power to run.
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Awesome. My bus is a T444e 7.3L
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06-11-2017, 01:02 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 112
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
you can buy group 31 batteries about anywhere.. as ECCB may have mentioend, see if you have a rural king near you.. i think you can buy group 31s at walmart. even a single battery will probably start that bus being that its summer time.
-Christopher
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I never seen a school bus crank with only one or two batteries they always had three
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06-11-2017, 01:49 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Georgia
Posts: 2,264
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: IH
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by _Bus_102_
I never seen a school bus crank with only one or two batteries they always had three
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I started mine once on 1 battery - the post wasn't even tight, it was sort of just laying loosely on the post.
Then again, the 9.0L has no electronics to power .... not even any glow plugs.
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06-11-2017, 05:20 AM
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#33
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,835
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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Being that it's summer and if yourvebgine is on good shape you can start a 444e on a single battery just to get you going, have you got that bus driving yet?
Christopher
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06-11-2017, 07:57 AM
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#34
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by _Bus_102_
I never seen a school bus crank with only one or two batteries they always had three
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I've never seen one with three. I know some folks up north have to do that.
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06-11-2017, 08:09 AM
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#35
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,835
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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even in 0 degree F weather, I cranked both my busses with 2 batteries.. and older batteries at that,, mnt DT-360 wasnt even plugged in and it still started.. my T-444E with just one glow-plug cycle started up just like it was 60 degrees outside..
I think opne big reason for going to 3 batteries is at idle or near idle in winter.. dark putside, every heater fan blasting, all lights on, etc.. the alternator cant keep up.. and most school busses are idling from one bus stop to the next.. more batteries helps with that..
the way we use our busses.. they are iether parked or are going on longer runs where the batteries have a better chance of staying charged.
-Christopher
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06-21-2017, 01:45 AM
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#36
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Skoolie
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 112
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
I've never seen one with three. I know some folks up north have to do that.
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Our buses have three. Down here in Mississippi.
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06-21-2017, 04:30 AM
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#37
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by _Bus_102_
Our buses have three. Down here in Mississippi.
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At the schools??? Or at the junk yard?
Can't believe yall'd need 3 up there.
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06-21-2017, 06:33 AM
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#38
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,835
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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Quote:
Originally Posted by _Bus_102_
Our buses have three. Down here in Mississippi.
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have you gotten your bus running yet?
-Christopher
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06-23-2017, 11:50 PM
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#39
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Skoolie
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 112
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
have you gotten your bus running yet?
-Christopher
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Ain't had time to mess with it. Do know what kind of oil that can be used. The motor says navistar 7.3L on it
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06-23-2017, 11:52 PM
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#40
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Skoolie
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 112
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
At the schools??? Or at the junk yard?
Can't believe yall'd need 3 up there.
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Every school bus our school county's has runs three batteries
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