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Old 09-22-2016, 02:11 PM   #1
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Buying 1st bus, opinions wanted!

Hello all, we are a family of 4 (husband, 5 year old, 18 month old, and myself) looking for our first bus to purchase and convert. I've been reading through all the posts to help decide what bus we should get.

I have found what seems to be a perfect bus...

2001 International with DT466 FE, Allison2000, Hydraulic Brakes, 125,546miles, 71 passenger, and very little rust that we can see for only $1800.

Everyone on here seems to really love the MT643 trans and there isn't much talk of the 2000 series. Is it an okay transmission? Strong enough for the DT466? Does this bus seem too good to be true?

Also, I know all engines after 2004 are electronic without the E in the name. But is it safe to assume that this is actually a DT466E since the trans is electronic?

Thank you for any insight and I apologize if I use the wrong terminology in my post since we are still learning!
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Its an E, and the 2000 is a good tranny.
I'd be wary of mileage, since international gauge panels are regularly switched out. See if you can verify that mileage and ask about hours.
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Old 09-22-2016, 02:22 PM   #3
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the 2000 isnt talked about alot here as it wasnt used on a ton of school busses until 2002 and later, which many of the busses here are older..

I like the 2000, its specs should more than cover what a DT-466E puts out.. and I know allison also is really conservative on their specs so you should have no issues with that trans... it can also be unlocked to give you a 6th gear(most asll are shipped with only 5 geard enabled).. if you feel your RPM run too high for your speed..

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Its an E, and the 2000 is a good tranny.
I'd be wary of mileage, since international gauge panels are regularly switched out. See if you can verify that mileage and ask about hours.
I wouldn't have thought of that, thank you!
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the 2000 isnt talked about alot here as it wasnt used on a ton of school busses until 2002 and later, which many of the busses here are older..
Gotcha, glad to know it is a good model. Thank you for your help!
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Old 09-22-2016, 02:53 PM   #6
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if you are looking at Rear engine busses you'll see an MD3060 mentioned alot.. that one is fantastic.. its a 5 or 6 speed (see below)...

the AT545 was the go-to transmission for many years.. its solid as a rock but is only 4 speed (no overdrive) and doesnt have a lock-up cionverter.. so in highway (esp hilly) it doesnt do as well as others...

the MT-643 was basically a AT545 style (4 speed no OD).. but does have a locking torque converter so it runs cooler, does much better in the hills and robs less power.. those were being used along with AT545's depending on the bus.. it varied..

the allison 1000,2000 series are shipped as 5 speed single Overdrive With lockup.. so they give you an uograde over the MT-643... they are electronic and mechanically are 6 speed Double Overdrive transmissions.. but 6th geasr is electronically turned off.. allison can turn it on (for a fee usually)..

the 1000 is a bit lighter duty.. main place ive seen those was on the IC BE series busses which were a smaller lighter duty chassis

theres a few other variants of automatics out in the bus world but those are the main ones you find 99% of the time..

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That overdrive gear is rad when you're out on the freeway.
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I have the AT545 on my NO list after reading everyone on here talk about its downfalls. I am looking for either a DT466 or Cummins 8.3 engine with a MT643, MD3060, or (now I can add) an Allison2000. Still deciding between RE or FE. The RE busses seem so much harder to come by. Just waiting until the perfect bus comes along since we aren't on a time schedule.
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I have a DT-360 and an AT545 in my bus.. and ive driven it 8500 miles in 4 months on that combo...

then again i hasvent yet tried to cross the rockies...
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I'm sure we would do great with less power but we are currently around Chicago and once on the road are crossing the Rockies and headed up to Alaska! Plus we are thinking about bringing a toad... not sure about that yet. I figure the bigger the better since we will be dealing with some serious inclines.

Any advice on towing? I haven't even started to research that yet. So much to learn!
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