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Old 07-03-2016, 05:53 PM   #1
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Considering a DT466 2002 International

I'm looking at the following bus, and wondering what good questions I might ask the seller?

Thanks in advance!

condition: excellent
fuel: diesel
odometer: 147000
title status: clean
transmission: manual

"We have recently taken a 2002 International out of service and am offering it for sale. It has an excellent running DT 466 diesel engine with 176,000 miles, automatic tranny, good tires, exhaust and fluid brakes. Bus has always been stored inside so the is no paint fade. Everything still works on this bus as it has recently passed a MnDOT inspection. Asking $3,500"
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Old 07-03-2016, 06:01 PM   #2
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I'm looking at the following bus, and wondering what good questions I might ask the seller?

Thanks in advance!

condition: excellent
fuel: diesel
odometer: 147000
title status: clean
transmission: manual

"We have recently taken a 2002 International out of service and am offering it for sale. It has an excellent running DT 466 diesel engine with 176,000 miles, automatic tranny, good tires, exhaust and fluid brakes. Bus has always been stored inside so the is no paint fade. Everything still works on this bus as it has recently passed a MnDOT inspection. Asking $3,500"
Ask em what the rear axle ratio is, the tire size and age, and if the trans is a manual or auto as both are listed above.
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Old 07-03-2016, 07:02 PM   #3
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Thank you. I noticed the transmission thing too. I'm fairly sure it's an auto. As far as the rear axle ratio, are there advantages to certain gearing ratios?
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Old 07-03-2016, 07:19 PM   #4
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Thank you. I noticed the transmission thing too. I'm fairly sure it's an auto. As far as the rear axle ratio, are there advantages to certain gearing ratios?
Lower numbers means higher top speed. A ratio like 5.37:1 will get you around 50-55 on the highway, a 4.11:1 will get you around 65-70. An overdrive transmission will help with top speed, too.
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Old 07-03-2016, 07:38 PM   #5
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Thank you.

I've done a lot of research on the engine itself and it seems to be a fairly solid model, but would welcome any input on the DT 466
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Thank you.

I've done a lot of research on the engine itself and it seems to be a fairly solid model, but would welcome any input on the DT 466
They're GREAT engines. Better than even a Cummins.
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Old 07-03-2016, 07:55 PM   #7
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See if you can find out which model of automatic transmission it is, too. Allison makes nearly every one I've heard of, and they are dandy from all I've heard. But the 545 does not 'lock up' so it is more appropriate for flat land (no engine braking going down a hill). This might or might not be important to you.

If the tires were replaced at some point you're likely to be OK, but original tires would now be 14 years old. Conventional wisdom suggests replacing them at ten years regardless of tire wear. Look for the date codes on the side walls: they should look like "*DOT1309*" or some such: first two digits are the week and the last two are the year. [Others: if I got that wrong, please correct me - I am, after all, a book learner and do not have hands-on experience. Yet.]
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Old 07-03-2016, 07:59 PM   #8
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Great info! I'm somewhat hopeful the bus was well maintained, it's just been retired from a district, with latest dot inspection. I will ask those questions.

Thanks so much.
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Old 07-03-2016, 08:25 PM   #9
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if you get the vin and go to the local international dealer, they can print out the build sheet that has all that information
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They're GREAT engines. Better than even a Cummins.
Now your just being mean.
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