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Old 06-10-2015, 07:12 AM   #11
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okay me confused

If you swap seat and remove one, then have tables both drop down, the beds will be waayyy short...anyways that is 2 beds down and 8 more to go

that will take 3 stacked by 6 ft long on both sides (not much space for even turning over)

and then 2 left...a queen size bed in back is another 6 ft

That is about 18/20 ft of space already

and 3 small people is Veerryy tight on bus seats when sitting 6 at table

cooking for 10 takes some room atleast 4 ft if not more and a bath needs atleast 3 or 4 ft

How much space do you have behind drives seat??
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Old 06-10-2015, 09:06 AM   #12
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No queen in the back, bansil. The queen is rows 1 and 3, with a gaucho table bed, sleeping sideways across the bus. Building the bunks from canvas keeps them thin to maximise space. I'll post a floor plan later, and you'll see.
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Old 06-10-2015, 09:45 AM   #13
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Okay, I must have combined 2 different builds I didnt catch the hammock and such...it's going to be tight keep pictures coming of progress
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Old 07-14-2015, 12:40 PM   #14
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I'm in a similar position with 6 kids in our bus. I am counting on using tents for older kids as they get taller. When I was younger, I found a little dome tent more comfortable than the stuffy cabin my family stayed in. Right now, our oldest is 10.

I'm going to consider stealing that hammock over the driver idea though...

We are doing 2 bunks, a queen, a couch and convertible dinette for a theoretical capacity of 9, but probably not 9 adults...
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Old 07-14-2015, 04:08 PM   #15
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These days you can get alternators that put out more than enough juice to run one or two a/c units while going down the road. Not giant units but mine (250 amp run through an inverter) will handle that load. Big rigs, fire trucks, EMT vehicles do it all the time. Some of them run 2 or more 370 amp alts.
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Old 07-18-2015, 11:16 PM   #16
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Tango: Can you direct us to a source for such alternators? I live and travel in the south-- mostly in the summers. AC is a big hangup in my planning... if I could run 2 rooftops AC's off the engine that would be great! Even better if I could also run those same AC's on shore power when docked.
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Tango: Can you direct us to a source for such alternators? I live and travel in the south-- mostly in the summers. AC is a big hangup in my planning... if I could run 2 rooftops AC's off the engine that would be great! Even better if I could also run those same AC's on shore power when docked.
Here is one that will do 430 amps at 12 volts. I think they are made for fire trucks.

55SI High Output Brushless Heavy Duty Alternator | 250, 275 Amp Brushless Alternator | Delco Remy | Delco Remy

Now, I'm not sure where one can buy one but it's a start !
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Old 07-19-2015, 12:22 AM   #18
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All I can say is "wow!"

Do watch out for those performance curves, though: that 430 amp unit is near its rating at 6000 and achieves its rating only at 9000 alternator RPM and at 77F/25C. No engine bay runs at that temperature, at least not in summer! It de-rates to about 380 amp (about -12%) at 200F/93C which seems a much more likely operating point.

By the way: "firetruckparts.com" wants US$1920 for that 55SI.
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Old 07-19-2015, 10:44 AM   #19
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I got two triple bunks in yesterday. Tested them out. Kids think they are great.

Bus was parked in shade, windows open, no ac. It was fine to work in all day.
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Old 07-19-2015, 02:43 PM   #20
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Beyns, we think alike! My plans are very similar to yours. Thought about using Army stretchers for the kids' bunks. Would love to see pics of your setup... Put some kids on the bunks so we can see how much headroom there is.
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