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Old 02-23-2015, 12:08 AM   #21
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You mentioned that you don't like linear or hallway kitchen layouts. Maybe you're wanting a U or L shape..? Both could go in the back of a front-engine bus, but probably wouldn't work so well in the back of a rear-engine.

I had a front engine bus for 700 miles. I sold it because I found the engine noise and heat to be objectionable for my purpose (family vacations). It sounds like your bus would be mostly used stationary and you'd usually travel alone though, so you might easily handle noise and heat with ear plugs, cool weather, and an open window.
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Old 02-23-2015, 12:31 AM   #22
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What I have planned is very similar to what you can see here. With my sink where they have the stove, and my stove top where the smaller part of the L shape is - so that it faces my living room area. Then an eye level oven and the fridge on opposite sides facing each at the other end...like behind you if you were taking the photo there. This layout could also work at the front of the bus facing the back...depending on where the wheels are in respect to plumbing needs.

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Old 02-23-2015, 01:04 AM   #23
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There also may be some youtube videos that may show something helpful.
I took that advice. Previously I had only looked at conversion videos. I looked at some bus for sale ones this time. And also looking closer at that photo that "family wagon" posted... I actually hadn't realized before how much the engine compartment protrudes into the interior space. Looks to me like you loose about three feet of your interior space, with a rear engine.
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Old 02-23-2015, 01:07 AM   #24
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Oh, could someone tell me the door frame height of the rear emergency door? You know, head clearance there...on a front engine bus with the emergency door in the center of the back.
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Old 02-23-2015, 06:43 AM   #25
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I'm nearly six feet tall and the door is about a foot shorter than me.
I think the front engine layout is best but that's what I own. So of course its the best!
I like having the side and rear doors. And I don't notice loud noises. The engine cover can be insulated and covered. Everything has its solution!
I started out wanting a rear engine bus, but found much better deals on front engines. I'm all about the bottom line, like yourself.
Another advantage of the front engine is that the wheelbase is tighter giving a better turning radius. That is a big deal for getting around in parking lots and camp grounds.
Personally I think the "noise and heat" aren't too bad. Mine is even missing the seal. But I've been working in loud shops and driving heavy equipment for most of my adult life.
You sound like you're really determined and independent. You're gonna love the skoolie life! Whatever you do, make sure you're really happy.
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Old 02-23-2015, 10:16 PM   #26
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I'm nearly six feet tall and the door is about a foot shorter than me.
Cool, I'm only 5'3" so that might be tall enough. A little duck wouldn't bother me much, and I gave up dating tall men when my neck problem started. LOL

I'm contemplating turning my whole floor layout around. My plan was to have the living room area in the very front, kitchen open to that and just behind it, bathroom behind the kitchen and then the bedroom in the very back. With a front engine, I was thinking maybe flip that and use that back door for the front door...have a deck off it. I'm picturing taking off that emergency door and making something reminiscent of a hobbit door.

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The engine cover can be insulated and covered. Everything has its solution!
Yeah, I restored a 64 Beetle once and dealt with that.

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I started out wanting a rear engine bus, but found much better deals on front engines. I'm all about the bottom line, like yourself.
Right now that's all I'm finding - front engine flat nose and dog nose.

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Another advantage of the front engine is that the wheelbase is tighter giving a better turning radius. That is a big deal for getting around in parking lots and camp grounds.
Personally I think the "noise and heat" aren't too bad. Mine is even missing the seal. But I've been working in loud shops and driving heavy equipment for most of my adult life.
I was a heavy equipment operator for a few years; the sound isn't something that's likely to bother me. The tighter wheel base concerns me just a little, because of the swing radius then of that behind the rear wheels. But I had proper training when I got my CDL and am a careful operator.

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You sound like you're really determined and independent. You're gonna love the skoolie life! Whatever you do, make sure you're really happy.
That's what they tell me - determined and independent...and always up to something. LOL
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Old 02-23-2015, 10:34 PM   #27
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I had a mid-80's Thomas conventional in my younger years, briefly. It was ok, but it just didn't maneuver like this Ward I have now.
Since you're not planning on driving a ton of miles that may not be a big concern.

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Old 02-23-2015, 10:41 PM   #28
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Say, I was watching this YouTube video of a guy showing a bus he just bought, and he was saying that one reason he chose the Thomas over a Bluebird at the same auction was because the Thomas has 3/4" marine grade plywood on the floor (on top of the metal). Is that really a Thomas versus Bluebird thing? Or was it maybe just a difference of years of buses he was looking at?
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Old 02-24-2015, 06:47 AM   #29
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no it isn't.. honestly he was probably just a bit ignorant.
Its not really a big deal. I definitely wouldn't buy a bus simply based on the presence of factory flooring. A good number of us rip that out anyway.
Are you talking about "no pain dave" on Youtube?
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Old 02-24-2015, 07:56 AM   #30
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I think it's probably more likely a "what the original purchaser" ordered it with thing.
My Bluebird has marine plywood over the metal.
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