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Old 04-08-2016, 10:00 PM   #1
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Greetings from Alaska and bus question

Greetings everyone,
I need a bus and have a question.
I'm looking at flying down and driving one back up the alcan next month.
Then this fall heading down to Mexico from Alaska.
The question I have is this..?..
How would a flat nose compare to a standard bus for less than perfect road conditions.?


I'm so ready to thaw with my two dogs as road companions. Just want to get the right bus for the journey.
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Old 04-08-2016, 10:15 PM   #2
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Hello and welcome.

So you're comparing flat nose buses to conventional buses wondering which would be best on bad roads? Are you talking about the Alcan itself?

My response to your question would be that IMO a conventional bus would drive better on bad roads. I have a forward control bus and it doesn't like uneven ground very much. My bumper rubs in my own driveway.

What length bus are you talking about buying? Mine is a medium forward control. I assume I could make it up the Alcan with it, but if I had my pick of what to drive it would be a conventional bus.
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Old 04-08-2016, 10:47 PM   #3
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Thanks, I was thinking the same thing. I'm looking for a 60C/40A conventional. Or there abouts. Kinda wondered why I didn't see any flat nose busses up here. I like the look of both though.
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Old 04-09-2016, 12:14 AM   #4
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We drove our flat nose rear engine bus to Prudhoe Bay. No problems.
Does that count as less than perfect road conditions?
A conventional type bus will generally have better clearance and approach/departure angles.
Get the bus that works for You. Then post pictures.
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Old 04-09-2016, 02:20 AM   #5
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anything you can drag or push an axle over will get you there. have contemplated raising the first step 1/2 a step up for extra clearance. then use a milk crate. there are no wrong ways to get to st. louis.
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Old 04-11-2016, 04:48 PM   #6
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We drove our flat nose rear engine bus to Prudhoe Bay. No problems.
Does that count as less than perfect road conditions?
A conventional type bus will generally have better clearance and approach/departure angles.
Get the bus that works for You. Then post pictures.
Hahaha, yeah I'd say that qualifies.
I've seen a few up here, just not many.
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Something else to consider about a flatnose, or FE bus, is the length in case you ever have to go on the ferry.
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Old 04-18-2016, 05:40 AM   #8
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Just be aware that the weight cops in BC are getting really persnickety about air brake equipped vehicles.

I was trying to figure out a way for a customer to drive his own bus home to AK from WA.

In the process I was finally able to talk to a weigh master at the Port of Entry. As I was talking to him he said he was looking out the window at five air brake equipped motorhomes that were red tagged until a driver with an air brake endorsement appeared to drive them.

Bottom line for the customer was unless he could find a friend who had an air brake endorsement on his license he was going to have to pay to have the bus shipped to AK.
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Old 04-18-2016, 12:04 PM   #9
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Thanks, I was planning on renewing my CDl and add air brakes to it. I wanted to try to cover all bases.
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Old 04-18-2016, 01:12 PM   #10
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Just did that last summer!

This is a great idea.

I brought mine up from California last summer and took the Cassiar/Alcan.

Everybody is all concerned about how bad the roads are, but... It is not like the "old days" on the Alcan anymore. They have been working on that road steadily since WWII and.. (maybe unfortunately) it is not really a bad road anymore. I only hit about 30 miles of gravel and people drive it now in vehicles much less competent than any bus you could possibly choose.

Small cars and 2 wheel drive 1/2 ton rigs do just as well as the uni-mog with 10 gas cans on the roof. I passed a couple more conventional RV's that insisted upon towing a Potty-Car behind.. That is a sign to me that you don't really need to worry about the "bad road" issue... some frost heaves and construction... but a bus... almost any bus will be more Heavy Duty than some of the cars you will see making the same trip.

You will have fun... or at least I sure did.
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