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Old 01-10-2019, 08:31 PM   #11
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My tiny rig will incorporate a "wet toilet". That is a combination shower & toilet in a single, small space. You can use a conventional RV toilet that goes into a tank or, as in my case, I'm using what some call a composting toilet. Blue water sailors have been using this type for years. And my space is so small, the shower will be a sit down affair with a plastic cover over the toilet.


Lots of ways to cram things in. Don't waste a cubic inch!



Spend as much time as you can up front reading the build threads here and the ideas that will fit your lifestyle concept should pop out and begin to help build a plan.


Best of luck. Do it your way and have fun!
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Old 01-17-2019, 12:46 AM   #12
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My personal preference is a shorty bus, cut-away van, and a cargo trailer. Many folks try several rigs before keeping one. I guess that’s me also. But perhaps they rushed into it. I’m tall. If anyone is very tall I suggest being patient to find one with a raised roof.
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Old 01-17-2019, 09:10 AM   #13
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My personal preference is a shorty bus, cut-away van, and a cargo trailer. Many folks try several rigs before keeping one. I guess that’s me also. But perhaps they rushed into it. I’m tall. If anyone is very tall I suggest being patient to find one with a raised roof.
i’ve been actually looking into short buses but also mid sizes seems like a good size to be as well. anything but a full size lol. we’re pretty short my husband is the tallest standing at 5’9 and i’m only 5 ft so i think it shouldn’t be much of an issue with the roof?
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Old 01-17-2019, 09:50 AM   #14
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Tall buses are 78" inside (in the middle). Not-so-tall buses are about 72". The roof/ceiling slopes off at the edges/walls. To easily determine the roof/ceiling height from a picture of the bus, look at a pic of the curb-side of the bus. If the passenger window line is above the top of the main door, its 78" floor-to-ceiling. If the passenger window line is below the top of the main door, its 72" floor-to-ceiling.


Even if you don't think the ceiling height will be an issue, still try to get a 78" floor-to-ceiling bus. The extra headroom does make a big difference. (Also, there's always the roof-raise!)



If you want to see a family of 9 living in a school bus (along with a bunch of conversion videos), check out the "Good News Bus" (http://goodnewsbus.com), and on YouTube: (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPr...V-b6NYfat14N1A).


Believe me, there are a lot more - everything from vans to Unimogs to a double-decker transit bus. (My favorite right now is a tossup between the Good News Bus and the double-decker, but in a few months that will probably be different.)


Get ideas from all of them, see how others set their bus up. I've seen so many good ideas that I can't remember them all. I try to capture the ones that seem like they would work for me on my Trello board.



But most of all - enjoy the build!
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Old 01-17-2019, 12:21 PM   #15
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we’ll definitely go inside a few buses before we decide I imagine. all these different specs to look for is a bit overwhelming like geez where is the perfect bus?!? haha

just binge watched the heck out of the good news bus. i love their build! I just personally wanted something smaller so we can really minimize a bit. i did lurk at vans for A LONG time until i decided i don’t think a van could fit our “needs” & they’re a bit pricey.
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Old 01-17-2019, 12:23 PM   #16
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also what do you guys think is a good price for a bus? my max was about around $6k that we would want to spend
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Old 01-17-2019, 12:40 PM   #17
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all these different specs to look for is a bit overwhelming like geez where is the perfect bus?!? haha

There isn't one "perfect" bus - its the "perfect" one for you.


Get a planner or journaling notebook. When you see something you like, write down information about whatever you saw (what it was, where to find it later, etc.). Do this over the next few months as you look and you will gather a great deal of information.


Once you have a few pages of information, follow "MoSCoW" rules to determine what is important to you. (No, I'm not part of the Russian disinformation campaign - ha!)


"MoSCoW" is a mnemonic to remember (M)ust have, (S)hould have, (C)ould have, (W)ant to have - its a way of categorizing your ideas so that you can get a handle on what you what your build to have.


For example, for my family, a (M)ust have was comfortable sleeping for 6, and since we would like to full-time at some point, a (C)ould have was sleeping for 8, and (W)ant was sleeping for 10. Also, a (M)ust for us was boondocking for at least 3 days, with a (S)hould for boondocking for 5 days, and (W)ant for boondocking for a full 7 days.


So now we have some high-level criteria for comparing possible buses. Our criteria led us to larger buses (sleeping for 6 or more; boondocking for 3 days or more). Others' criteria may be that they just want a "travel wagon" and will rely more on hotels and friends - then they don't need as big a bus and can look at smaller / less expensive buses.


As we see what others have done and we rate those ideas according to "MoSCoW" rules, we home in on what we want in our conversion.
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Old 01-17-2019, 12:50 PM   #18
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wow thanks man! i’m an advit journaler/planner so right up my alley & would be helpful!

how did you guys go about the “wants & needs” of each other and comprise?

boondocking is a definite want for me eh but for dear hubby i’m not sure haha

i wish toyota coasters were here in the u.s. i feel like that’s a nice size and still not attracting too much attention if we wanted to go to more public places.

but i love how skoolies look bad ass, ugh so torn
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Old 01-17-2019, 12:54 PM   #19
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There isn't one "perfect" bus - its the "perfect" one for you.


Get a planner or journaling notebook. When you see something you like, write down information about whatever you saw (what it was, where to find it later, etc.). Do this over the next few months as you look and you will gather a great deal of information.


Once you have a few pages of information, follow "MoSCoW" rules to determine what is important to you. (No, I'm not part of the Russian disinformation campaign - ha!)


"MoSCoW" is a mnemonic to remember (M)ust have, (S)hould have, (C)ould have, (W)ant to have - its a way of categorizing your ideas so that you can get a handle on what you what your build to have.


For example, for my family, a (M)ust have was comfortable sleeping for 6, and since we would like to full-time at some point, a (C)ould have was sleeping for 8, and (W)ant was sleeping for 10. Also, a (M)ust for us was boondocking for at least 3 days, with a (S)hould for boondocking for 5 days, and (W)ant for boondocking for a full 7 days.


So now we have some high-level criteria for comparing possible buses. Our criteria led us to larger buses (sleeping for 6 or more; boondocking for 3 days or more). Others' criteria may be that they just want a "travel wagon" and will rely more on hotels and friends - then they don't need as big a bus and can look at smaller / less expensive buses.


As we see what others have done and we rate those ideas according to "MoSCoW" rules, we home in on what we want in our conversion.

great idea
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Old 01-17-2019, 02:02 PM   #20
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how did you guys go about the “wants & needs” of each other and comprise?

Simple - talk it out in the moment and don't take things personally (don't get defensive). Generally there is a reason for one or another's thoughts - find that reason or reasons. WRITE THAT REASON DOWN!


Go look at RVs TOGETHER. Don't have a sales person there so you can talk things out while actually in the moment (imaging yourself actually living in that space!) You'll find a whole host of things out that you didn't know before (actually about each other!). You'll talk about things you like about a particular setup, and about things you didn't like.


For example, my wife does not like rooms that are only 1" wider than the bed (I'm exaggerating a bit, but you get the idea); reason: she wants to be able to get around the bed to be able to make it up (I'm the one to make it with clean sheets; she's the one to make it after we get up in the morning). Once she gave her reason, I was like "yea, you're right!"


My wife also doesn't like dinette setups (I do); reason: a dinette won't get all 6 of us around a table (she grew up with dinner being a big and important part of family life; I didn't). Again, stuff like that. It really is amazing what you find out about others....
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