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Old 06-27-2017, 08:37 PM   #31
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Okay so I got the pushrod figured out. But now, the Kutcher is super hard to press down it seems like it's engaging but it's not what I would imagine it should be doing. Idk what to do next. I feel like just saying it's fine and moving on to the next thing. But it still starts with or with out the clutch pushed in. When the mechanic came over he sincerely thought all that needed to be done after he bled everything and looked at it was the proper length pushrod. So maybe Ivery just been assuming I should have more give on the clutch than I do?.... I'm kinda stumped now.

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Old 06-27-2017, 09:24 PM   #32
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Can you describe how it feels that isn't what you imagined? Should feel more or less like any other clutch, maybe a bit heavier push.

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Old 06-27-2017, 10:03 PM   #33
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Can you describe how it feels that isn't what you imagined? Should feel more or less like any other clutch, maybe a bit heavier push.

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Well every other clutch I have driven has at least a couple inches and isn't crazy hard to push down. I can barely push it with my hand and it only move's like a 1/4 inch. The slave is moving about the same amount but it looks like it should move at least another 1/2 inch. I'm gonna figure out if I can post a video or not and maybe seeing it can be better explaination

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Old 06-27-2017, 10:39 PM   #34
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Regarding it starting without the clutch being depressed:

The prior owner probably jumpered the switch that is intended to keep that from happening. That would allow them to start the bus while in gear.


Regarding the Pit Bull and renting... If landlords could screen for stupid people then we probably not have trouble with breed specific restrictions. IMHO: It is not the breed of the dog that is at issue it is the way SOME people raise their animals.

Some of the sweetest dog I have ever been around have bee pit bull's and rottweiler's.

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Old 06-27-2017, 10:58 PM   #35
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Regarding it starting without the clutch being depressed:

The prior owner probably jumpered the switch that is intended to keep that from happening. That would allow them to start the bus while in gear.


Regarding the Pit Bull and renting... If landlords could screen for stupid people then we probably not have trouble with breed specific restrictions. IMHO: It is not the breed of the dog that is at issue it is the way SOME people raise their animals.

Some of the sweetest dog I have ever been around have bee pit bull's and rottweiler's.

Don't blame the kids for their parents failure....
There's a switch somewhere that allows that to happen? Can I make it normal agian? And how do I do that? where is it?

And I absolutely agree I actually grew up breeding rottweilers it wasn't till I was older that I learned people thought they were mean they are the most loyal and sweet dogs. And same with pit Bulls they were actually bread to be nanny dogs! My pit is amazing with my son and he wouldn't hurt a fly!

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Old 06-28-2017, 12:02 AM   #36
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I can't seem to upload a video unfortunately.

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Old 06-28-2017, 12:07 AM   #37
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I can't seem to upload a video unfortunately.

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upload video on youtube and just share link here.
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Old 06-28-2017, 12:18 AM   #38
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upload video on youtube and just share link here.
Alright not the best video in the world but hopefully it shows what it's doing. I can take a video of the slave cylinders movement tomorrow
https://youtu.be/cEuOT2Ti7uA

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I have not encountered any medium or heavy duty truck or bus that required you to push in the clutch to start. The only vehicles I have ever seen that had that lock out were newer light duty trucks and small cars. So not having a clutch lock out is not something to get all excited about.

IIRC the pressure needed to engage the clutch was about 35 lbs. It is virtually impossible to engage the clutch with your hand. Even if you are a large economy sized person like me the clutch pedal won't move very much if you are pushing on it with your hand.

In regards to your brakes--some of the parts are relatively easy to find. But some of the brakes parts are made up out of unobtainium. Springs, hardware, and wheel cylinders are fairly interchangeable in the medium truck world of the '50's-'80's. The real unicorn parts are going to be the hard parts like brake drums. I can remember a school district having to machine some brake drums to fit in order to put a bus back into service. And that was in about 1985.
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I have not encountered any medium or heavy duty truck or bus that required you to push in the clutch to start. The only vehicles I have ever seen that had that lock out were newer light duty trucks and small cars. So not having a clutch lock out is not something to get all excited about.

IIRC the pressure needed to engage the clutch was about 35 lbs. It is virtually impossible to engage the clutch with your hand. Even if you are a large economy sized person like me the clutch pedal won't move very much if you are pushing on it with your hand.

In regards to your brakes--some of the parts are relatively easy to find. But some of the brakes parts are made up out of unobtainium. Springs, hardware, and wheel cylinders are fairly interchangeable in the medium truck world of the '50's-'80's. The real unicorn parts are going to be the hard parts like brake drums. I can remember a school district having to machine some brake drums to fit in order to put a bus back into service. And that was in about 1985.
Okay so the clutch is fine?
https://youtu.be/_DGCOVxpo3E
there's a video of the slave cylinder. And I thought it had more room to go but it really doesn't so I guess it's all working? You really don't need the clutch to start though? We will just use it shifting?

Yeah I feel like they are going to have to take it apart and then match it, or rebuild it/ have it made. It's probably going to be a pretty penny.

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